Phil Cooke Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 In June 2020 the Power Scale Soaring Association are planning to stage another ‘Mass Build’ flying event following the success and popularity of previous builds with the Jet Provost, the Skyhawk and most recently the Hurricane. Once again the Association would like to invite you to take part! We hope to get as many participants building simultaneously from 1st November 2019 and over the Winter months - with the aim of flying the new models at a ‘Fly for Fun’ event upon the Great Orme, Llandudno in June 2020 (exact weekend yet to be decided). For anyone wanting to take part who’s not currently a PSSA member, drop me a line at [email protected] and join us, Association membership is FREE! Our latest project is focused on a new plan drawn by PSSA members Martin Gay and Gordon Studley, the North American F-86 Sabre. Spanning 43.5” with a target flying weight of 4lb, this 1/10th scale vintage jet is a conventionally built-up PSS model for 2 to 4 channel R/C. The prototype (pictured above) has been fully flight tested and refined over the past few months and the comprehensive set of plans are now available to purchase directly from Martin and Gordon through G&M Models. In addition, they have also just released a CNC short kit of birch ply and balsa shaped parts specifically for our use. My sincere thanks go to Martin and Gordon for their dedicated efforts and drive throughout the design and development phase of this exciting new PSS model! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 The CNC short kit contains over 100 pre-shaped birch ply and balsa parts needed to complete the model, as with previous designs there is additional balsa sheeting and strip stock required to finish the airframe ready for covering. G&M Models can offer builders taking part the 2 sheet plan for £16.00 plus postage, or a combined set of CNC parts and the plan for £70.00 plus postage. Orders can be placed from August 1st by sending an email confirming your requirements to the PSSA – contact us at [email protected] with your details and G&M models will be in touch to confirm your order! Canopies can be ordered direct from Steve Davis at Vortex Vacforms for just £8.00 (canopy order reference CN3) We’d like building to commence from 1st November 2019 - so there’s plenty of time to purchase your short kit and ready the workshop! Obviously, you can make a start anytime but we’re keen to get folk building simultaneously allowing the sharing of ideas, knacks and lessons learnt via build blogs in this dedicated www.modelflying.co.uk forum section, aiding other modellers whilst they are at a similar stage of the build. In that light, I’d invite all Mass Build participants to create their own blog to cover your individual Sabre build journeys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 Building from the plan is straight forward (especially so with the use of the CNC parts!) so starting in November will give even the slowest of builders plenty of time to be flight ready for the event in June 2020. For those completely new to PSS or building from plans we encourage you to have a go, this really is one of the main drivers of our Mass Build activity! There will be loads of help along the way from others taking part on the forum – this is a great opportunity to learn some new skills and create a scale model of your own to be proud of! We see it as an exciting and fun way for us to promote Power Scale Soaring, whilst getting more of our members building, learning or coaching. At the PSSA Fly-in in June, the Sabres will be assembled on The Great Orme for the first time and flown in a number of type specific ‘display’ slots. As in previous years, we’ll offer prizes for the Best Finished model, Best PSSA newcomer, Best Scale/Innovative feature and so on… It should certainly deliver another spectacle to remember up on the Orme and produce a unique ‘Fly for Fun’ event. Many thanks once again to PSSA member Bob Jennings for our fantastic Sabre Mass Build event logo! If you would like to take part in the PSSA Sabre Mass Build Project please do let me know, email me at [email protected] to register your participation and / or place an order for the short kit and plans! I do hope you can join us and take an active part in this project - and like me, you are eagerly looking forward to the mass gathering of North American F-86 Sabres next Summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Gorham_ Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 After seeing the maiden flight of the prototype and then having a twiddle on the sticks a couple of times, it's good to get the gen on the Sabre. Looking forward to partaking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I am in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I'm in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Twist Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Great introduction Phil, like Alan, I was also one of the lucky ones to enjoy a flight of the prototype. I'll be ordering! Edited By Harry Twist on 10/07/2019 21:21:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I' m in too....… already have an idea which variant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Flyer is there any (inadvertent commas) >>.......indoor gold spraying involved ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Posted by Mark Kettle 1 on 11/07/2019 07:28:38: Flyer is there any (inadvertent commas) >>.......indoor gold spraying involved ? Not indoor anymore That lesson well and truly learnt. Have now worked out a better plan . Have acquired a 'proper' airbrush, so will be looking at any chance to practice techniques. As for the colour..........wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 .... It was surprising Flyer, last time we were around the dinner table and talking about the past spraying and painting misdemeanours we had made and how many of us 'fessed-up' to it. Nice to here from you Ade and catch you soon at the hillside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monz Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I'm in too! Here's a hint of the scheme I'm going with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blackburn Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Phil - for the benefit of those of us who can't resist changing things and doing one of the early versions (i.e. meddling), is the design based on the later "solid" 6-3 wing with a small wing fence (which could easily have been left off to keep things simple), or is it the original wing with slats? I suspect the latter, but would rather not make the assumption. Andy Edited By Andy Blackburn on 12/07/2019 17:08:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Better off asking the designers rather than Phil, I'd wager.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 A Link to explain what Andy is asking : Sabre wing/s explained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 Andy - I have asked Martin (as designer) to confirm for us here, but the panel lines lovingly applied by Gordon to the prototype model in the photos above would appear to accurately reflect the 4-panel slatted L/E of the earlier design. I'll come clean and state I had never appreciated so much development had ever gone into the Sabre wing and that there were indeed 2 different plan forms! The shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blackburn Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Posted by Phil Cooke on 13/07/2019 07:50:05: Andy - I have asked Martin (as designer) to confirm for us here, but the panel lines lovingly applied by Gordon to the prototype model in the photos above would appear to accurately reflect the 4-panel slatted L/E of the earlier design. I'll come clean and state I had never appreciated so much development had ever gone into the Sabre wing and that there were indeed 2 different plan forms! The shame... Sorry, it's just that I want to do an F86A so wasn't sure how much work was involved. If it's the early slatted LE then that would be great, just leaves the chisel-profile windscreen, smaller stabiliser fairing and separate elevators, all of which looks do-able. The only problem I forsee is that a November start will conflict with my Indoor Scale FF Nats entries for next year; I'll just have to learn how to build quicker! A. P.S. - Good reference for the wings, MK1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Gay Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Hi Andy, Gordon drew up the plans from a number of sources. The main one was for a F86E with the early, slatted wing and not the later 6-3 version with it's larger chord. So modifying to an F86A should not be too difficult. Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Gay Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Phil, Shame on you for not knowing there were two wing versions of the Sabre - you are in "good" company as neither Gordon, or I, knew there was a difference! If we had known then this model would have been designed with the 6-3 wing and a slightly lower wind loading. Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 A reminder that Sabre plans and short kits can be ordered from August 1st - by emailing me at [email protected] and registering your participation and requirements - I'll then forward all orders to G&M models who will request more details from you directly for the invoice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiro Saruwatari Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Count me in! This time, I really want to build and fly. F86, THE plane that made the Olympic symbol over Tokyo in 1964 during the opening ceremony of the Tokyo Olympic games. We will be hosting another Olympic in 2020, so what more fitting plane is there for me to build. Toshiro in Tokyo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 Great to see you involved in another PSSA mass build project Toshiro - brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Beard Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Martin & Gordon, Can you please confirm what extra materials are required if you buy the CNC parts kit as I'm about to place an order for wood very shortly and would like to include the extra that I will require. All the Best Phil Beard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Sounds exciting. Lots more balsa bashing on its way. I second Philip's comment - a wood list and other parts needed saves a lot of time and effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jennings 1 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 You'll find some inspiration here: http://miprofiles.unblog.fr/2014/11/09/sabre-f/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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