EarlyBird Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Hi Barry, For the ailerons 4-Max do these Pushrod Keeper/Linkage Stopper pack of 5pcs (4-max.co.uk) Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I painted my snakes black which also blended in quite well. Hope your next flights go better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 For snakes I use M2 Threaded Pushrods prices from £3.49 for a pack of 10pcs (4-max.co.uk) with Pushrod Keeper/Linkage Stopper pack of 5pcs (4-max.co.uk) at the control horn end with the 2mm thread adapter and metal clevis at the servo. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) Basil, if you are fitting those threaded ends into a snake inner then the little gadget I made will help insert them without damaging the thread - it is simply a clevis of the same 2mm thread opened out to give something to hold and a bolt ( in this case another thread end with a soldered on head ) In use the thread end is inserted into the clevis and the 'bolt' inserted from the other end which 'locknuts' the two together. Then the thread end can be screwed into the snake inner, when it's in far enough ( halfway ) then unscrewing the bolt releases the grip and the clevis can be removed leaving the thread end in the snake inner. Edited March 2, 2022 by kc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, Peter Miller said: I gather that you just bought SLEC snakes without the clevises. SLEC sell 2 mm threaded rods about an inch long (Product Code: SL017-R) These will screw into the ends of the hollow snakes and then you can screw on a metal clevis Product Code: SL016B-R If you have the solid inners to the snakes Slec sell metal ends (Product Code: SL016C-R) snakes which can be crimped on to the snake or glued on with CA. Again the metal clevis screws on. Hope this helps Thanks for your reply Peter.My delema is caused I think as at the moment I am unable to seek outside help. The snake I have is the SL25, with a quick link. This has a bare plastic end. I have the SL016,( Male/female 2mm threaded).If a quick link or ball end is fitted it still requires a 2mm hole in the horn/servo arm.I take it that these are the only 2 alternatives. In this size model this means enlarging the hole in the horn/arm, this does not leave much 'Meat on the fitting, or am I being over cautiuos!!!!! I just find connecting controls to surfaces rather difficult as it seems we always seem to get back to the same fittings. I did try to use a wire push/pull but the only way I can see would be to use an additional horn between servo and horn for wires due to the run of the wires. Am I making the situation more complicated that it is?????????????? Thanks for your support Bas Edited March 3, 2022 by Basil omission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 OK. With small servo output arms I use Metal pushrod connectors ( SL063-R) as these only use a very small hole in the arm You would need a threaded rod (SL017) screwed into the end of your snake as mentioned for the other end. THis will go into the pushrod connector. This will leave you enough meat. The other alternative that I use in this situation is to bend a Z bend in thin wire and solder this to the threaded brass servo connector. That Z bend only need a very small hole in the output arm. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Peter Miller said: OK. With small servo output arms I use Metal pushrod connectors ( SL063-R) as these only use a very small hole in the arm You would need a threaded rod (SL017) screwed into the end of your snake as mentioned for the other end. THis will go into the pushrod connector. This will leave you enough meat. The other alternative that I use in this situation is to bend a Z bend in thin wire and solder this to the threaded brass servo connector. That Z bend only need a very small hole in the output arm. Hope this helps 2 hours ago, Peter Miller said: OK. With small servo output arms I use Metal pushrod connectors ( SL063-R) as these only use a very small hole in the arm You would need a threaded rod (SL017) screwed into the end of your snake as mentioned for the other end. THis will go into the pushrod connector. This will leave you enough meat. The other alternative that I use in this situation is to bend a Z bend in thin wire and solder this to the threaded brass servo connector. That Z bend only need a very small hole in the output arm. Hope this helps Yes Peter it does. If nothing else it made me use my brain alittle (A lot more). Just one thing more, I have some 1mm plastic rod/sleeve, what fittings can I use on these ends, as I cant find anything as small as 1mm listed anywhere? Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I have never used anything that small. J Perkins list Dubro micro clevises and also list rods and clevis etc for Arrows Hobby spare parts for for various planes. Perkins do not sell direct but you could check the websites of various model shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Is it like this? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 also from 4-Max small diameter stop ends. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) If it's like this. I would put a Z bend at one end and a 1.2mm pushrod keeper at the other. Steve Edited March 3, 2022 by EarlyBird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Peter Miller said: I have never used anything that small. J Perkins list Dubro micro clevises and also list rods and clevis etc for Arrows Hobby spare parts for for various planes. Perkins do not sell direct but you could check the websites of various model shops. Thanks Peter, I'll have a dig around. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 No response to my posts ? I thought I gave loads of ideas that were helpful. Not to worry. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 17 hours ago, EarlyBird said: No response to my posts ? I thought I gave loads of ideas that were helpful. Not to worry. Steve Sorry Steve, got side tracked, trying to buy a second hand car.The super light is to short. The diameter of the push rod keeper is 2mm, as I said to Peter this means drilling out the horn, it is small, was part of my original post , does not leave a lot of meat.The SL026 is what I have, again those parts that fix to it appear to be all 2mm, same problem as before. As I said I am a newby so been trying to find some alternatives. Thanks Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Use these to connect to the snake. Solder 16 swg wire into one end and bend a right angle at the other end and use these To secure the wire into horn or servo arm. If you want to use smaller wire then make a Z bend. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I did describe what I do to connect things to micro servo out puts. You can do the same by soldering them to the threaded connectors Use 20 or 22 SWG wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Steve & Peter, looks like you have both come up with similar. This will solve the problem of drilling out the plastic horn.My thanks to you both. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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