John Privett Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, kc said: Surely you need to leave the markings on until they are updated, otherwise you cannot fly those models. There does not seem to be any sign of new numbers being issued yet does there? Somewhere it was mentioned that the new marking might be same as old but with a prefix like GBR ( maybe mentioned on BMFA webinar? ) so the old mark may only need a prefix added anyway. We have to wait and see.. I received my new number on Friday 12 Feb. The format of my number is: GBR-OP-XXXNXXNNXNXX where X is a letter and N is a digit. And it bears no resemblance to my previous ID. Other numbers I've seen have letters in positions where I have digits and vice versa, so the format of the 12 characters after the GBR-OP might be totally flexible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Are some still waiting for their numbers, i received a reminder from the CAA that mine runs out today and to re register, this was done several weeks ago by our club through the BMFA............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, martin collins 1 said: Are some still waiting for their numbers, i received a reminder from the CAA that mine runs out today and to re register, this was done several weeks ago by our club through the BMFA............ Last I heard was to ignore the reminder Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Symons - BMFA Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, martin collins 1 said: Are some still waiting for their numbers, i received a reminder from the CAA that mine runs out today and to re register, this was done several weeks ago by our club through the BMFA............ The last batches are currently being processed so you should have your ID very soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 This may have been covered, Too idle to back track, but my number is valid till July ?? D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) I still have not heard anything about my ID number, but then did not get one issued last year either [ because of coronavirus my flying last year was very limited I did not chase it up.] Edited February 20, 2021 by J D 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticky fingers Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Seems to me that all this hoo ha has been confusing, ambiguous load of codswallop.Nobody in the Aviation beaurocracy seem to know their arm from their bottom,when all we want to do is go to the flying field and fly our little non passenger carriers into the blue clear sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticky fingers Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, sticky fingers said: Seems to me that all this hoo ha has been confusing, ambiguous load of codswallop.Nobody in the Aviation beaurocracy seem to know their arm from their bottom,when all we want to do is go to the flying field and fly our little non passenger carriers into the blue clear sky Had my operators no. the GBR one and all is good ,so far ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) On a positive note. The labels you print with your new number on will be large enough to cover your old labels, if you can't get them off Edited February 20, 2021 by Gary Manuel 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Gary Manuel said: On a positive note. The labels you print with your new number on will be large enough to cover your old labels, if you can't get them off Good idea - if only I hadn't printed the new labels on clear vinyl ? Dick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 My CAA number arrived by email at 1.30 this morning............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) I am still not sure all is completed yet though, if i go on the CAA portal it is showing my operator i.d number but is asking me if i want to take the test to get a flyer i.d? I have an A certificate, surly this should have been sorted by the BMFA and the CAA site show i have one? Also i thought the flyer i.d was valid for 5 years which presumably means my one from last year should still be in use, why is that not showing on the CAA site then? Edited February 21, 2021 by martin collins 1 added extra question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) The CAA don't keep any records of your BMFA 'A' etc. certificates, so it is a good idea to carry proof of these when flying to prove you are competent if asked. There is no link between a CAA Flyer ID and the BMFA Certificates, they are completely separate ways of proving competence. If you had a CAA Flyer ID last year, then that is valid for 3 years so you should still be OK. When your Operator ID is renewed annually (either via the BMFA or direct with the CAA) you get an email from the CAA confirming your Operator ID and also your Flyer ID if you have one. Have you had that yet? Dick Edited February 21, 2021 by Dickw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickw Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, martin collins 1 said: I am still not sure all is completed yet though, if i go on the CAA portal it is showing my operator i.d number but is asking me if i want to take the test to get a flyer i.d? I have an A certificate, surly this should have been sorted by the BMFA and the CAA site show i have one? Also i thought the flyer i.d was valid for 5 years which presumably means my one from last year should still be in use, why is that not showing on the CAA site then? I just checked my records on the CAA system and it is showing both my Flyer ID and my Operator ID. My Flyer ID is valid until November 2022 which is 3 years from when I passed the CAA online test. Are you sure you had a Flyer ID last year - i.e. did you take the CAA on line test? If you are relying on the BMFA A certificate then there won't be anything on the CAA site about a Flyer ID, but you do need to go on the BMFA membership portal and tick the box to confirm you have read the new CAA "Article 16 Authorisation". Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I have the box ticked on the BMFA portal, i have an A cert so fell no need to take the online test, i had my operator i.d conformation this morning as copied and pasted here, no mention of my flyer i.d which should be through the BMFA and my A cert. Thank you for registering for an operator ID. Your ID is below. Next Steps Label your drones and model aircraft with your operator ID. Find out how at:https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/labelling-your-drone-or-model-aircraft Make sure anyone who flies has a flyer ID and the appropriate authorisation. If you need a flyer ID yourself, you must register and take the test at the My registration area:https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/my-registration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 If you're a BMFA member, you are able to operate under the Article 16 exemption and can either claim grandfather rights from your A certificate or take the BMFA RCC test. You can get a CAA Flyer ID if you want to but you don't need it as an association member. The BMFA DO NOT issue a Flyer ID. You do need to tick the box on the BMFA membership site to CONFIRM THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERMS OF THE ARTICLE 16 EXEMPTION. If you do not, then I suggest you should take either the CAA test or the RCC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I was wondering where to put the number on my Chipmunk where it wouldn’t be too obtrusive but compliant - and had a small brainwave. Now you see it Now you don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Nice one Martin. It makes a nonsense of the system, when the number can be hidden as well as that and yet it is still compliant. I notice that you have used "Dymo" tape and split it over 2 lines. I have used similar stuff and put the setting on the tallest / widest font it can do. Spread over 2 lines like that the 19 characters (9 on top 10 underneath) take up the exact same space that the old 10 character number did. My new Dymo labels are EXACTLY the same size as my old ones. I'm not sure I can be as inventive as you at placing them but I'll do my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just got to remember where, when Plod calls. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I had to switch to 12mm tape to get 3mm high characters. They came out a little under 3mm on the 9mm stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON CRAGG Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 One day, they might send me the actual number......................instead of six reminders telling me to pay, which I did via the BMFA back in December. Pain in the xxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redex Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Hi Simon - I was in the same position as you , but have since logged into the BMFA site and under My Proflie/MemberDetails/Additional Details, I have found the CAA OP ID and the next renewal date. If not already done so maybe worth a check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Williams Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Yes I was the same, but my new number arrived in an email from the CAA at 2am this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Calcutt Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Received mine today,I don’t think there are enough numbers and letters,another 5 or 6 would have made it far more secure.You can never be too careful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Symons - BMFA Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 24/02/2021 at 00:23, SIMON CRAGG said: One day, they might send me the actual number......................instead of six reminders telling me to pay, which I did via the BMFA back in December. Pain in the xxxx. Simon, can you check you Junk/Spam folder, also check on your profile. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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