Chris Dowell Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Correction... Warning...senior citizen with rampant tape measure , should be 500 X 60 and not 700 X 60 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 15 hours ago, Chris Dowell said: Steve Very nice but VTOL The L is for LANDING? Chris... Chris, did you not watch to the end I did the Landing ? Vertical Take Off and a Landing at the end of the flight.? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 15 hours ago, Chris Dowell said: Correction... Warning...senior citizen with rampant tape measure , should be 500 X 60 and not 700 X 60 . Lol' I did the same when quoting my blade length. ? Steve... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 18/11/2021 at 18:57, Richard Harris said: Nice job Chris, loops will be a doddle now! no pressure for a video......... I'd be interested to know where the CG has ended up on your and Steve's over powered Gyroo's? When you guys get chance could you take a measurement from the front of the mast at the fuselage top forwards? Hi Richard, As stated in a previous post I had to fit the heavier motor as my model was Tail Heavy. ( I dont like dead weight ) So my overpowered Gyroo does balance on your recommended CoG point with approx. 15 degrees nose down angle. And flies just fine. ? Just out of curiosity why is the CoG point not moved further forward to a point where the model is level to make it easier for other to determine if the model is balanced correctly ? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 Cheers chaps, Models on other beta models are balancing between the points shown on the plan horizontally with no nose down attitude. Clearly I can alter this to give a bigger tolerance. Strange 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Dowell Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Steve Like I said "L" is for Landing ...that was an "arrival"? I was more thinking of having rotors front and back ..similar to a trycipter +wings Ponder ye on that one sport. Chris... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Chris Dowell said: Steve Like I said "L" is for Landing ...that was an "arrival"? I was more thinking of having rotors front and back ..similar to a trycipter +wings Ponder ye on that one sport. Chris... Sorry, I don't do quadcopter or tricopter. Just not my thing. But a swing wing ?. Besides I always thought vtol ment Vertical take off or landing. And Gyrocopters known as stol. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bees Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 A bit off topic but this question is aimed at Rich. Finally got round to attaching my blades for my Panther and i have made a stupid mistake of making the blades so they turn clockwise. Save making a new set can i cut the blades down from 21/1/2 x 2/3/8 inch to 19/3/4 x 2/3/8 , Would this make a difference regarding lift. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, bees said: A bit off topic but this question is aimed at Rich. Finally got round to attaching my blades for my Panther and i have made a stupid mistake of making the blades so they turn clockwise. Save making a new set can i cut the blades down from 21/1/2 x 2/3/8 inch to 19/3/4 x 2/3/8 , Would this make a difference regarding lift. Thank you. Or maybe reverse the motor and side thrust fit a pusher prop and enjoy flying right hand circuits. Steve ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bees Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Is that a Sig Wonder i can see sitting on your bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, bees said: Is that a Sig Wonder i can see sitting on your bench. It only is flies well too. Steve. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bees Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 In the process of building one as well, Could you be so kind as to say what specs regarding motor,esc,batt you have used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 25/11/2021 at 16:29, bees said: A bit off topic but this question is aimed at Rich. Finally got round to attaching my blades for my Panther and i have made a stupid mistake of making the blades so they turn clockwise. Save making a new set can i cut the blades down from 21/1/2 x 2/3/8 inch to 19/3/4 x 2/3/8 , Would this make a difference regarding lift. Thank you. Bees, Keep the blades as they are, you will have to add right roll trim for a clockwise rotation, alter nothing else. I wouldn't advise shortening the blades. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Dowell Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I went to the flying field yesterday hoping to test a new model(Tadpole) but unfortunately the wind was a little high for a test flight. I also wanted to test some new blades on the gyroooooo ? and I new this model would handle the conditions OK. I also found that I will have to reduce the the motor thrust a little as it was 'ballooning ' under full power. Steve ..did you find that ? I thought that I would also share some pics of my recent blade construction. Now it is not my intention to reinvent the wheel. but simply to see if I could make good blades with material that was lying around. (tight fisted old sod) So I used timber slats from a venetian blind and "dollar tree "5mm foam. The timber slats were cut to the required length sanded and joined with PVA with a couple more layers for the L/E and hub. These slats are approx 2mm thick and adding the foam to the top worked out pretty good. I pretty much balanced the blades at this stage before adding the foam as that would be adding only a little more weight. I shaped the L/E before adding the foam which was again joined with PVA and pressed flat over night .The foam is a lot easier to shape than balsa with less dust. I did not add tip weight as I considered they would be heavy enough as is. These blades are 500 X 60 including the try plate with bolt weigh 209 gms. I would be interest in comparing the weight of these blades with any one that has made similar size in balsa. The scales in the picture show the weight of a larger set of blades. You will be happy to know that I even as far as crash testing these blades....just to test them ? with no damage. All the strength is in the timber with the foam just to give shape and support the covering that is applied at a low heat. Happy landings Chris... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Building designing 'a few' successfully and unsuccessful' gyros, maybe one for me to build so here we go following the thread,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Still interested in this - when is the plan expected to be released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 19 hours ago, Chris Dowell said: I also found that I will have to reduce the the motor thrust a little as it was 'ballooning ' under full power. Steve ..did you find that ? No more than a Flat bottom wing trainer would. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 19 hours ago, Chris Dowell said: I did not add tip weight as I considered they would be heavy enough as is. These blades are 500 X 60 including the try plate with bolt weigh 209 gms. I would be interest in comparing the weight of these blades with any one that has made similar size in balsa. My Blades as a set including the Delta plates all bolted as one ready for bolting onto the C30 head. = 134g They are 450mm long x 55mm wide x 6mm thick Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 10 hours ago, MattyB said: Still interested in this - when is the plan expected to be released? I think the Gyroo is at the back of a very long list of plans coming through. I`m sure it will get their eventually. ? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Dowell Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Thanks for the numbers Steve...I'm not disappointed by the weight of my blades taking into consideration they are longer and wider...so probably generating more lift , which is always good.. Chris... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 I like the blades Chris, have you tried them yet? Will let you all know when the plans are earmarked for publication, have had a bit of a delay due to Covid in the family and seasonal viruses. I did manage to get out last weekend with something I always fancied experimenting with, things didnt go to plan but the results were encouraging. The Gyroo is the perfect machine for trying these things out on. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Are you saving up to buy another blade ?.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrunner Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 That's the sort of thing the free flight boys do. Never sure why it's done? Drag reduction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 One of the club members is the French electric pylon racing champion, and his glider / plane has only one blade, and what a row it makes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Harris Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: Are you saving up to buy another blade ?.? Times are hard........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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