Rich Griff Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 After a 2 hour search I finally found the bit of info I need. It's come from the horse's mouth ( caa site ) but may have been "Amended". Please can the forum confirm that the op id number should be in block capitals ( makes sence ) with characters higher than 3mm ( bit small imo ) ? I know it must be visible from outside the model ( makes sence ) and/or accessable without the need for tools...mmmm. Visible thru "windows"... Thanks, just checking in case I looked in the wrong place. Maybe this info should be quoted with the quote about it in bumf like 2022 quick start sheets etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 IMO largely thanks to folks who sought a proscriptive definition of what constituted a special tool the OP ID label, if inside the model, needs to be accessible by hand, without even using a screwdriver. It must also be on the main part of the model - so you couldn't have it just on a removable hatch or plate. Minimum 3mm high letters and I guess you would use capitals rather than lower case, since that is how the number is issued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Skilbeck Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) from a 2 min search https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/labelling-drones Your operator ID must be: visible from the outside, or within a compartment that can easily be accessed without using a tool clear and in block capitals taller than 3mm secure and safe from damage on the main body of the aircraft on my planes with an enclosed cockpit I put them inside visible through one of the windows, open cockpit planes have them in the cockpit and in electric models i put them in the battery compartment as the hatches don't need any tools to remove them. Edited February 12, 2022 by Frank Skilbeck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Stephenson Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 On models with wings fixed by screws I use thumb screws available from Model Fixings so the OP number can be inside the fuz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Mine are all on the main fuselage, generally under the tail. Not too obtrusive. But I don't have super scale models........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Griff Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) Everything is easy when you know how. On the above picture, why not include the minimum hieght of the characters as well ? Anyways guys thanks. Re reading the stuff in search of my questions answer did no harm. Off to buy a "Dyno" machine and spare tape as I now have 3 jobs to use it on, one being making tags for a car wiring problem. Also a new hole punch for the cable tags/identifiers. Edited February 12, 2022 by Rich Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bennett Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) I'm not sure I'd use Dymo tape, especially as you're likely to have a different number each year. I use small Avery self adhesive labels, the size sold for putting labels on 35mm slides. They do a template for MS Word, which makes printing off a whole bunch easy. L7656-100 is the reference, I think. 84 labels per sheet, so you could print for the whole club! Edited February 12, 2022 by Allan Bennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Symons - BMFA Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 52 minutes ago, Allan Bennett said: I'm not sure I'd use Dymo tape, especially as you're likely to have a different number each year. I use small Avery self adhesive labels, the size sold for putting labels on 35mm slides. They do a template for MS Word, which makes printing off a whole bunch easy. L7656-100 is the reference, I think. 84 labels per sheet, so you could print for the whole club! You arent likely to have a new number every year. Once you have the new format GBR-OP- number (all current ones are this format) it is highly unlikley to change. DYMO labels are perfect for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I use Dymo labels - but to clarify, they are the new style Dymo labels which print out onto a roll of self adhesive paper tape about 10mm wide. NOT the old style embossed plastic Dymo labels that were around in the 70's, where the label maker punched the characters into the hard plastic tape. Printing on self adhesive labels with a computer is an alternative, but I went with the Dymo labeller because I can also print the labels on clear plastic film for those models where the label has to be on the outside, when I usually put it underneath the tail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) I wonder if Allan was thinking of the traditional stress induced lettering hard tape? I’ve found my modern cassette type labeller (Brother, but I believe modern Dymo are very similar) absolutely perfect for the job - and a myriad of others such as labelling servo leads, workshop drawers, containers etc. Edit: Great minds, Leccy? Edited February 12, 2022 by Martin Harris - Moderator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zflyer Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I have a Brother printing machine for which you can buy assorted tapes and also ink colours. It's very good. 8n addition I understand that this year OP Numbers will be yours for the duration. Why they couldn't have used BMFA membership numbers I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Griff Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 Ah, I will check. I assumed they where still embossed type... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I just buy mine off ebay or facebook - can get lots and lots for the price of a Dymo or similar....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 If using the Dymo printed style labels get the indelible ink sort, not the standard ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Zflyer said: Why they couldn't have used BMFA membership numbers I don't know. As a member of EASA it was necessary for the CAA to comply with international standardisation. That’s why our numbers start with GBR. The previous change was because the CAA format didn’t comply but there’s no foreseeable reason for it to change again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Minchell Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I just type the OP number into Word on the PC and duplicate it many times so I can print out on an A4 sheet of paper. Then cut with scissors and stick number side down onto a strip of sellotape then the excess sellotape around the outside sticks to wherever I want on the model. Number is protected with clear tape and removable if I sell the model or the number changes and 30 or 40 on a sheet of A4 plus tape costs next to nothing. John M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cooper Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I just had a few hundred stickers printed. Loads of printing options available on Ebay. . All are very cheap. Easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 8 hours ago, GrumpyGnome said: I just buy mine off ebay or facebook - can get lots and lots for the price of a Dymo or similar....... Maybe not cost-effective in isolation but very handy for all sorts of jobs - both model related and around the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I thought that when I wasted money on mine ? others will be more creative in their use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 The label printers advertising on eBay and BMFA can be seen charging a fiver for a dozen labels. Even without self adhesive labels the method described above of printing an A4 sheet of labels, cutting them out and sticking a piece of Sellotape over the top is very easy to do. I suppose if one is flying IC sports models, with the labels on the outside, with them needing to be fuel proof, is the most likely explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bennett Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 19 hours ago, Martin Harris - Moderator said: I wonder if Allan was thinking of the traditional stress induced lettering hard tape? .... Quite right, I didn't know there were other kinds of Dymo labels! Good to hear that our numbers may not change again. My supply of Avery labels should see me out then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 21 hours ago, leccyflyer said: The label printers advertising on eBay and BMFA can be seen charging a fiver for a dozen labels. Even without self adhesive labels the method described above of printing an A4 sheet of labels, cutting them out and sticking a piece of Sellotape over the top is very easy to do. I suppose if one is flying IC sports models, with the labels on the outside, with them needing to be fuel proof, is the most likely explanation. Yep, and, unless inks have improved, sunlight will cause the print to fade on the home-printed ink-jet version. Possibly worth sealing the edge, especially on foam models, to help stop the Sellotape lifting. The vinyl'y ones I bought stick really well, and have not faded at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Laser printed labels don't fade at all in normal use - they are permanent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bennett Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Mine are ink-jet printed and I always give them a quick spray with varnish before peeling from the sheet, to ensure they're rainproof. Never noticed any problem with fading, and I've been using inkjet printing for many years for vinyl and waterslide decals. Maybe that depends on the ink brand -- I use HP original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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