Flair Scouts? SMC?

[Jason Channing]

If I can get a decent plan or borrow a Kit I can laser cut them if required. Takes a little while to do well so the fits are basically perfect,

 

[leccyflyer]

I've had a Puppeteer for many years, but she's never flown - took the finished model to the field with a newly installed OS 52 four stroke for a maiden flight, but it was blowing a hooley, so went home without flying it. That was when I was switching over the all electric and I eventually took out the four stroke and sold it, never having been in the air. That must have been over twenty years ago and the e-conversion still isn't done. 

Years on I bought an electrified Magnatilla from a clubmate, which I've spent some time on fitting a pilot, dummy engine and machine gun and which I've been prevaricating over added a lozenge scheme to the upper wing surface to replicate my long missed OS .20 four stroke powered Atilla, Probably should have flown the Magnatilla as is, without repainting and really should do that. 

[Cuban8]

I don't recall the problems with the Flair kits that I built for myself or assisted in the build for beginners - mind you, that was in the days when Dudley Pattison was Flair's main man so things might have changed after he moved on.

The basic designs were good and remain so, hence with modern tech they could be updated to a very high standard indeed. I'm sure they'd sell well at home and abroad. Interesting to see how modern Airfix kits are designed now, as seen on the Hornby TV documentaries - mostly all CAD, laser scanners and done in comfort sitting at a desk!

[kevin b]

10 hours ago, Jon - Laser Engines said:

 

saito 45. Lasers are too big physically and for power. Even the saito is turning a 15 inch prop, grossly overloaded and still i only need about 1/2 throttle

For a moment there I thought you had produced a new "small" Laser (that would be nice).  

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[Paul De Tourtoulon]

19 minutes ago, kevin b said:

For a moment there I thought you had produced a new "small" Laser (that would be nice).  

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Yes like a 3 cylinder 30cc,,,?

[Maurice Dyer]

1 hour ago, Cuban8 said:

I don't recall the problems with the Flair kits that I built for myself or assisted in the build for beginners - mind you, that was in the days when Dudley Pattison was Flair's main man so things might have changed after he moved on.

The basic designs were good and remain so, hence with modern tech they could be updated to a very high standard indeed. I'm sure they'd sell well at home and abroad. Interesting to see how modern Airfix kits are designed now, as seen on the Hornby TV documentaries - mostly all CAD, laser scanners and done in comfort sitting at a desk!

If I recall correctly, the Flair designer was Pete Nicholson. He went on with Model designs (?), Small speed 600 electric Warbirds back in the 1990s. And very nice they were too. SLEC still produce their bear cat. Still have my Hurricane.

Maury

[ken anderson.]

On 16/02/2022 at 23:16, Jon - Laser Engines said:

£249?! good lord

if it is an old original kit i would ask them to check the wood for wood worm etc....plus £249 is profiteering to say the least.

 

ken anderson...ne...1..flair dept.

[Andy Gates]

On 17/02/2022 at 12:42, Matt Carlton said:

Stan at PMP has resurrected his wood kits with success, so no reason that an updated Heron with a built up wing, Flamingo, Sunrise etc wouldn't sell, particularly as electric conversions. 

 

There's a big back catalogue of kits that would find a ready market I suspect. But as ever, price would be key. 

More info please.

 

Who or what is PMP? Is a website around?

[leccyflyer]

Phoenix Model Products. 

https://www.phoenixmp.com/

[Andy Gates]

Thank you.

[Alan Hilton]

Balsa Cabin do some flair kits including the SE5a 

[Alan Gorham_]

15 minutes ago, Alan Hilton said:

Balsa Cabin do some flair kits including the SE5a 

 

They do them in the sense that they are all out of stock because they are out of production!

[Jonathan S]

There does not seem that many ww1 scout kits, I have been looking for a good se5 for a while. 

[kevin b]

57 minutes ago, Jonathan S said:

There does not seem that many ww1 scout kits, I have been looking for a good se5 for a while. 

Why not build from the plan and get the bits from here   Inwoods

[Matt Carlton]

1 hour ago, Jonathan S said:

There does not seem that many ww1 scout kits, I have been looking for a good se5 for a while

 

Doesn't DB Sport & Scale do a selection of Pups and SE5's in various sizes? 

[Paul De Tourtoulon]

Did I read it properly £40 for a kitchen mixing bowl ?.

[David Ovenden]

As far as I can see from the photo the mixing bowl has a big hole on the bottom !

[Paul De Tourtoulon]

That's where the £40 fell out,,,

 

 I got mine for my Bristol M 1 at one of those local cheap shops, from 1€ to around 5€,,,

 

 Not the best but 2 minutes on the web,,,,

[Geoff S]

21 hours ago, Matt Carlton said:

 

Doesn't DB Sport & Scale do a selection of Pups and SE5's in various sizes? 

 

They do 3 pups I think - a smallish one originally designed for electric power, then a 1/6th scale (60" ws) one which is new and I've built but haven't flown and a bigger 1/4 scale one.  AFIK they only do a 1/4 scale SE5a.

 

I have a Flair SE5a which I built years ago and recently electrified and I also have a Dennis Bryant plan and the CNC parts for a 54" ws SE5a which I doubt I'll ever build.  I bought it  on a whim on eBay, as one does ?

[Matt Carlton]

I just had a quick look, the new 60" Pup looks rather nice. I do prefer the lines of an SE5 though, I see DB do a plan pack for the "Scout" which is SE5 esque. Might be a nice electric conversion.