Zflyer Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Jus a quick question, do you prefer restraining a model using the leading edge of the wing or the leading edge of the tailplane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Does not matter, as long as it’s secure. I use both, depending on the model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Wing for me, model box on one side and a plastic electric fence post on the other spacing adjusted for size of aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu knowles Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Same as JD8 above for me. I would never use a restraint that held onto the tailplane. Its a for too delicate part of the airframe to be subject to such stress - not withstanding that tailplane restraints are by for the most common method used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 My IC models have a hooked tailskid built into the structure, which attaches to a loop in a nylon string. The other end of the string is tied to one of those big corkscrew things that are used for restraining angry dobermans. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Tailplane for me - 'cos I'm used to it, and don't have any low wingers. I think there's only one regular member, and one visitor who restrains by the wings. Have to say I've never seen a 'failure' of either type...... but never seen anything larger than 35cc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Carr Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) In my 2 clubs I can’t think of anyone who restrains by the wing, models (of all sizes) are restrained via the tail Never seen a tail separate/damaged using this method i made this 22 year ago and it still serves me well, the uprights have copper pipe foam lagging and wrapped off with electricians tape Edited July 12, 2022 by Craig Carr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I do tend to use tail restraints more than wing but only the latter for WOT testing / tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 13 hours ago, J D 8 said: Wing for me, model box on one side and a plastic electric fence post on the other spacing adjusted for size of aircraft. Nearly the same for me, model box on the left wing and my body or my parasol on the left wing, I have all my fingers to prove that it's safe,,😇 Occasionally a decent strap around the tail when running it in my garden pointing it against a wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: Nearly the same for me, model box on the left wing and my body or my parasol on the left wing, I have all my fingers to prove that it's safe,,😇 Occasionally a decent strap around the tail when running it in my garden pointing it against a wall. What stops it pivoting around one of the left wing restraints ?🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 The LMA preferred method is tail restraint employing teamwork. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 hours ago, PatMc said: What stops it pivoting around one of the left wing restraints ?🤔 Left MODEL BOX right ME,,, you can see it here in the background, do you want me to weigh it ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: Left MODEL BOX right ME,,, you can see it here in the background, do you want me to weigh it ?. Are you in two places at the same time ? 3 hours ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: Nearly the same for me, model box on the left wing and my body or my parasol on the left wing, I have all my fingers to prove that it's safe,,😇. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 How do you start it if you're behind the prop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Oh dear has the heat got into you in Blighty ?.😆 Zoom in to the right at the end where you can see my Fokker Eindekker, the left of the wing is blocked by my model box, starter on the ground in front of it, and my radio and myself are when I start it ,blocking the right wing with my leg, the same applies when tethered by the tail, when on our model tables ( I have a picture with an Autogyro if you can imagine it with a wing🙃) it's my body, now can I get back to the pool ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Ah got it, ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 19 hours ago, Zflyer said: Jus a quick question, do you prefer restraining a model using the leading edge of the wing or the leading edge of the tailplane. Whole thing sits in a cradle on a stand. Pipe lagging makes it soft and gentle etc etc. Stand has flight box weighing it down. Ultimately, restrained by the wing, I suppose. Some models don't fit. In which case, wing it with flight box and leg as per Paul's post. I try and make sure the wiping rag stops the hard bits of the box from contacting the LE of the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Straps and big screwdrivers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I use the club bench stand (that restrains the wings) or the Y type in front of the tail if its a ground start. Couple of issues with the bench, firstly I have a couple of models where the wheels sit against the uprights which can allow the model to pitch forwards so needs a tail restraint and secondly nacelles on twins don't fit the uprights pitch. PS if a tail comes off a model with a Y peg, I would be surprised it would last in flight TBH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Carlton Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Model set up table has built in vertical posts to restrain the LE, then a bungee cord over the rear fuselage in fron of the fin to hold the tail down. Usually sufficient for smaller models. Very large/powerful models I would probably want to use a helper if I could, but my models are usually sub 60" and no more than 40 size or electric equivalent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Can we stick to the topic and "Restrain ourselves" gents ? I use a tail restraint myself, I don't apply full throttle unless models being held by someone, prefer it because there's less clutter in front of model that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Binnie Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I discovered the 'Airopult' while searching for restraint devices for my Xtra Wot. The frame pegs into the ground securely, the rear padded restraints fold up/down and are released by the foot pedal from behind when ready to taxi. There is a second set of restraints that fold upright behind the undercarriage legs, these allow pressure to be applied to the spinner by an electric starter without holding the model by hand. Not the cheapest option but it was the safest method I could find for lone operation of a large model (with a large engine and propeller!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Done some modding gents, can we chill now please ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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