Rocker Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just brought the Eflite 1500mm F W 190. It comes with no swastika on the fin ( do not want to get into the rights and wrong about that. I understand both sides of the story about yes or no) Anyone know where I can get some swastika decals the right size for this model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrman Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Try Pyramid Models. https://pyramidmodels.com/shop/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 The Solartrim part of their website shows the proportions for various insignia including swastika so one can cut them from Solartrim or anything else. Scale models deserve the proper insignia - no need to distort history. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I believe that the reason for there being no swastika on the fins of WW2 German models is that the display of the swastika is banned in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 If I remember right DD, it is not banned per se, but the rule is more 'public display is allowed in certain circumstance', one of which is in historic or educational context. I imagine that EFlite is simply playing it safe as they can't afford any potential legal wrangling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Display of the swastika isn't only prohibited in Germany - both Austria and France prohibit it's display, though there are exception related to historical context, filmmaking and museum use. A model distributor which is selling it's products in Europ will often take the safe option and omit the swastika from the supplied markings, rather than needing to go to the trouble of separate packaging and contents for different countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, leccyflyer said: Display of the swastika isn't only prohibited in Germany - both Austria and France prohibit it's display, though there are exception related to historical context, filmmaking and museum use. A model distributor which is selling it's products in Europ will often take the safe option and omit the swastika from the supplied markings, rather than needing to go to the trouble of separate packaging and contents for different countries. I have a very nice model of a Fieseler Storch, done in the winter colours of the Russian front, 1941, built from a Svenson kit. It is a beautiful example of scale modeling, at its highest level. Built in 1980 by a British Army officer, and flown on British bases in Germany at the time. Note, British bases. I bought it from the builder in Somerset. Brought it to France. Where to allow it to fly at the club field with the swastika displayed……. I talked to my Chairman. Who talked to the Mayor, who satisfied himself that it’s a work of great beauty, and that my Socialist leanings make it unlikely that I have ulterior motives. The mayor then consulted authorities at County equivalent level, and Regional level. And permission was granted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Yes illegal to use in France, as illustrated here,,, 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lima Hotel Foxtrot Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, Rocker said: Just brought the Eflite 1500mm F W 190. It comes with no swastika on the fin ( do not want to get into the rights and wrong about that. I understand both sides of the story about yes or no) Anyone know where I can get some swastika decals the right size for this model "do not want to get into the rights and wrong about that" ...and of course almost instantly people start talking about the rights, wrongs and reasons of that. Honestly, I despair of this forum at times. Ref. OP: Addlestone Model Centre have about a billion decals in assorted flavours. https://addlestone-models.co.uk/search?q=*becc Edited August 3, 2022 by Lima Hotel Foxtrot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: Yes illegal to use in France, as illustrated here,,, 🤣 That's a nice Stuka - any details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Marutaka that I built in 1988/89 ?, I painted it all no decals it's the one in Hendon, first fitted with a Rossi, then an OS .61 crashed in the grapevines 4 years ago when it went into a spin on take off with the flaps down and engine stopped, a great plane to fly now replaced with a ESM Saito FG-30 powered one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Wedlake Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Not sure about the definition of a Swastika but on my FW Ta152 I printed them reversed so the tails face the other way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Thanks Paul - she's a beauty. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 One model I assembled - Durafly Me163 IIRC - came with 2 part decals...presumably so that they weren't actually providing swastikas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Yes, I think you're right - I decided to leave them off my Komet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 A German war plane should have it's proper marking, anyway it does remind my French club members what the British did,,,🥳 I also Have a BF 109,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Anyway.... If you cannot find them commercialy, printing, cutting or painting your own isn't all that complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Crook Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I made one for my FMS BF109 using strips of black and white insulation tape, which I have found adheres well long term. The model was given an overall coat of Plastikote aerosol matt lacquer, which gets rid of any shiny bits and helps stop anything unpeeling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 03/08/2022 at 08:28, David Davis said: I believe that the reason for there being no swastika on the fins of WW2 German models is that the display of the swastika is banned in Germany. Yes I know the reason but they not ban here in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 I know the reason for Eflite not putting on the swastika. That is not what I asked. I like my model to be like the real aircraft and the FW 190 had the swastika on. There for I would like to have my FW 190 with a swastika on the fin. Just need to know where I could buy some. I fully understand why Eflite have left them off and agree with Eflite decision on doing this. It has left it to the individual to make the decision to fit them or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 Thanks "jrman" I get them from Pyrmid models 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Why not get them from the same source that the originals came from…a paint pot! Sadly, Solartrim is a thing of the past but alternatively you could cut them from self adhesive vinyl. Another solution would be to print some onto water slide decal paper using an inkjet printer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Crook Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Here's my insulation tape effort. I've also included a pic of the other controversial marking that the kit omitted. This one I downloaded and printed on adhesive label paper. Worked surprisingly well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 03/08/2022 at 10:33, Don Fry said: ... I talked to my Chairman. Who talked to the Mayor, who satisfied himself that it’s a work of great beauty, and that my Socialist leanings make it unlikely that I have ulterior motives. The mayor then consulted authorities at County equivalent level, and Regional level. And permission was granted. Quite so. I once knew a man, the neighbour of my uncle, who was an aeromodeller and an ardent trade unionist. He bought a model of a Bf 109 from a clubmate but could not bring himself to fly it in the Nazi markings. So he stripped off all of the covering and re-covered it. The fuselage was finished in pale blue and wing and tailplane in yellow. It was very hard to recognise as a 109 in that colour scheme! If I ever build a WW2 German aircraft, and model FW190s are said to fly well, I will finish mine as a captured aircraft in British markings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 This could help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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