Nigel Heather Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Is there any brand of Aliphatic Glue that stands out from the others or are they all pretty much the same? Any particular recommendations? Cheers, Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Some are thinner than other, Deluxe Superphatic stands out as a thin quick tack strong joint maker. The thicker ones seem much the same, strong, dependable, won’t poison you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 SuperPhatic lives up to it's name - it really is Super. The wicking action makes it a great cyano substitute if you can't work with CA. It has a quick grab, low odor, penetrates joints really well and it's strong with it. A bottle also lasts for ages. Highly recommended. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heather Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) I'm looking at it for it's sanding characteristics - like for gluing leading edge block and sheet - would a thicker aliphatic be better for that? Edited May 10, 2023 by Nigel Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 I've found that it's better than PVA for sanding, but I haven't directly compared it to thicker aliphatic glues. such as Tite-bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 PVA sets as a rubber, and it’s OK to sand, with sharp abrasive. Aliphatics set more like a hard styrene plastic, sands better because the debris separates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heather Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 I’m aware that it stands better which is why I’m looking to buy some. Is SuperPhatic that stuff that is really thin, like semi-skimmed milk - to be used as a wicking glue like CA. So for sticking wing leading edge block and sheet am I best off with a thicker glue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kearsley Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 I use De Luxe Materials aliphatic resin almost exclusively in my builds, with a little CA for tacking here and there and epoxy occasionally. It’s superb stuff and the joints are extremely strong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Nigel Heather said: I’m aware that it stands better which is why I’m looking to buy some. Is SuperPhatic that stuff that is really thin, like semi-skimmed milk - to be used as a wicking glue like CA. So for sticking wing leading edge block and sheet am I best off with a thicker glue? Probably, both will do, but the thicker glues are cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyP Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I'm a fan of Titebond aliphatic although it does take its time to set.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I've always been happy with Titebond or Deluxe Materials' Aliphatic. Wouldn't like to say which is better than the other. Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) There seems to be some confusion here??? There is Delux Aliphatic Resin adhesive, like PVA , yellowish in colour,but as has already been said is easier to sand than PVA ,quick grab etc. this is not to be confused with Delux super phatic glue, this is the thin milky adhisive referred to earlier, the one that 'Wicks' . Two different products. Bas Edited May 11, 2023 by Basil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis 2 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I have not been satisfied with J Perkins Aliphatic Resin, it does not bond well. I have some Deluxe Materials Aliphatic Resin so will try that from now on and will try some of their Super 'Phatic on my next project, a David Hurrell 1/4 scale Fokker Dr1 because that appears to be what he used when building the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Collinson Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 +1 for Titebond. Super Phatic is great for improving pre-glued ARTF joints, seems to add hardly any weight but as said above, it wicks well. BTC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heather Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 I wonder whether normal aliphatic mixed with acrylic thinners would make a SuperPhatic like glue? Cheers, Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Collinson Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 For £7, would you risk that? I’m not a real chemist but I wouldn’t. Get a copy of “Modern Adhesives”. I found it hard to put down. BTC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hazell 1 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I consider SuperPhatic to be completely different to aliphatic resin. I use both. I love SuperPhatic for joints where wicking helps - i.e. wing ribs to spars. I use aliphatic resin for anything where I'm joining long lengths to other long lengths. Like say adding triangle to the bottom of a fuse side etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 12 hours ago, Basil said: There seems to be some confusion here??? There is Delux Aliphatic Resin adhesive, like PVA , yellowish in colour,but as has already been said is easier to sand than PVA ,quick grab etc. this is not to be confused with Delux super phatic glue, this is the thin milky adhisive referred to earlier, the one that 'Wicks' . Two different products. Bas There's no confusion at all - the OP asked if there was any differences in aliphatic glues, whether they are all the same and if anything stands out. There have been several answers to that question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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