Roy Thompson Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 The previous post should say the CG is not quoted in the instructions (The forum won’t let me edit it). Also the the video link to Essential RC has changed it’s on their YT site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 Yesterday couldn't have been any more perfect for fly. October sunshine, blue sky's and a gentle breeze all day long. Three more flights were added to the Magisters total today, all very gentle circuits for the most part, just getting more of a feel for her and building my confidence with the more forward CG and higher rates, more akin to Bowman's recommendations. I'm enjoying the low passes up & down the strip in the sunshine, just trying to find that scale looking speed. One thing I hadn't tried until now was the stall. Well, I can report with full up held in, it's very, very gentle with a gentle nose drop and slight drop of the right wing. It feels like you run out of elevator authority long before anything nasty happens. We tried the first couple proper roll's as well, they are not the fastest, but then you're not expecting them to be. However, they are reasonably axel, not requiring too much in the way of down elevator in the inverted. So happy with that. The landing have improved smoother with less pitching, partly in the knowledge of how much I can hold her off in the flare before the stall. But it does feel like it could do with a little more elevator movement, to hold the nose up at touch down. It's still very easy to let her tip over the second the wheels touch. I will confess that on the last landing of the day, the "I'll just have one more flight!" I did try and slow her down too much on finals and drop her in hard on her nose, breaking the prop. That had to happen at some time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roy Thompson Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Progress on the Maggie has been coming along slowly. The new cowling were collected a few weeks ago, and I've been working on fitting one when I've had spar time in between other stuff, like holidays. It's tough being a pensioner, so many places to visit. The new cowl we've had made is much sturdier and weigh noticeably more than the original, with thicker layers of glass cloth. Unfortunately, this made it too snug a fit, and it has involved a lot of sanding of the inside of the cowl to get a good fit. Once that was out of the way, the cutting out was simple enough, following the line from the fist cowl. Two things I wanted to do with this cowl is (1) conceal the fixings to some degree by placing them where the latches would be, and by making dummy latches for the over locations. (2) add other details like the air intakes, panels and exhaust. Fire up the 3D printer, intakes and latches printed. Next step painting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Did a little more on the cowl yesterday, and we are almost there. I’ve added the last of the panel latches, and when painted I think they look better than I expected. Before applying the primmer, I laid in some panel lines with 0.75mm tape unfortunately you have to look closely to really see them, they are a bit too fine, compared to how large the gaps are on the real thing. Hopefully, if I add some weathering, it will make them stand out a lot more. The other item I wanted to add was an exhaust, and I did consider printing one, but after looking around the workshop I came across some aluminium tubing that is about the right size. So after some cutting and bending and shaping, we have an exhaust. It's all too clean and shiny for now, but that can be shorted later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 A little time back, there was a complete kit for sale and I contacted the seller, who kindly sent me copies of the instructions and pictures of the plan. Just in case they are any help to anyone else with a Bowman Magister, I leave what I have here. On top of this, there was also a copy of a feature on the Miles Magister from the Aeroplane Monthly March 1980 Vol 8 Num 3. BOWMAN KITS.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottenRow Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Thanks for posting the pictures of the plan and instructions, they are always useful to have. Your model looks great with its new cowl. Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Another unstarted kit for sale, this time in the UK. https://classifieds.bmfa.org/acadp_listings/bowman-miles-magister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted November 3, 2023 Author Share Posted November 3, 2023 Had an hour at the field this morning before the rain started, but long enough to check out a few things and take some pictures now see completed. One thing I noticed from the last flight was how much down trim was on the elevator, suggesting the CG needs to go more forward. Will do that before the next flight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Postons Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I have a used Bowman Miles Magister for sale if anyone is interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Pics and price might help sell it Neil 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Postons Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 £120.00 including a new cowl which is from the Flair 1/4 scale Tiger moth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 Looks like it’s got good bones for a restoration project Neil. A touch of delaminating veneer, but we got a repair scheme to fix that, and we’ve seen a lot worse. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 How spooky is this ? Just turned the calendar over. Martin did I see you’ve just the motor to throw in Neils, for sale aswell. Neil if someone wants this what part of the country are you in, and do you have this up for sale anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Yes, selling an ASP 120 4 stroke just removed to put a petrol engine in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Postons Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Located in Herefordshire and I have not listed it for sale anywhere else yet but will do if it doesn’t sell soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottenRow Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 PM sent to you Neil. Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 Good day yesterday at the flying field, the sun was shining, the breeze was blowing gentle down the strip and plenty of club mates enjoying the company. A good day to take the Magister for a couple of flights armed with my camera. First flight OK but as smooth as I would like, chasing the elevator trim I’m sure when the plastic snake expands and contracts with the change in temperature. The prop came very close to being driven into the ground during takeoff, as the tail came up too much, but after a couple of circuits we had that adjusted. The landing of the day, ended with her parking herself on her nose. Second flight much better now I’d got my eye in again, and as the camera was in the hands of my friend I trust to take good pictures, I was determined to have a smooth flight. Good takeoff, plenty of passes for the camera and a landing on the wheels. That made my day. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin collins 1 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Roy, the undercarriage on yours looks like it wants more forward rake on it.........M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted July 8 Author Share Posted July 8 On 01/07/2024 at 22:39, martin collins 1 said: Roy, the undercarriage on yours looks like it wants more forward rake on it.........M You’re quite right Martin, I hadn’t noticed. I took the legs off this weekend and bent them back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 It’s been a while since I’ve posted in this thread but I thought I’d share this, Decembers RCM&E. After completing the Magister I took some time and wrote up the restoration, and here we are a few months later, part one. Hopefully it’s going to be of interest, I’ve written it more about the process of the restoration and conversion, as opposed to a step by step account. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 (edited) Following with interest Roy. I acquired a Bowman’s Magister kit this year, which I am very much looking forward to building but probably not until the Spring. It will be an electric conversion and I am considering a three piece wing to assist with transport. Edited November 17 by Piers Bowlan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Thompson Posted November 17 Author Share Posted November 17 (edited) Hi Piers, good to hear, I'll be looking out for the build tread with interest. I think you're right, if you are starting from scratch then a 2 or 3 part wing is the way to go. Just finished posting this in another place. The only question bugging me now is what do I do with the remains of the other kit. There is a temptation to start a long term project as a Miles Hawk Trainer, using the lessons learnt from the Magister. As the centre wing section is delaminated, I would build up a replacement maybe using the foam outers, allowing for a 2 or 3 part wing, for easy transport and storage, that's for starters. The weight, is the other issue as the magister came out around 14.5 lbs, the instruction say 10lbs. A built-up wing would help with this, and as the fuse need to be strip back to a frame and restarted there's the chance to build in some extra lightness, in the words of the recently departed and sadly missed Chris Golds. But then again, there are other projects still to do, like the Bowman's Hurricane, that keeps slipping down the list for one. Edited November 17 by Roy Thompson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 I just weighed my three veneered wing panels, 790g, or 1.74lbs, although that does not include the balsa LE & TEs. They are big wings so would built up wings be significantly lighter? I think a lot of weight might be saved with the landing gear, which consists of heavy wheels, wire and a massive piece of ply,- 550g in all! It would certainly be more convenient to have a two or three section wing but there is usually a weight penalty with that too. I think much might depend on how long I want to spend building it. Modifications, although tempting, can increase the build time considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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