malmaz Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) I am building a Mick Reeves Gangster 63 with foam cored wings, my question is, what do you use to help the iron on film stick to the fibre glass bandage around the centre of the wing? I have built a few models and always have a problem in this area, is Prymol what you use? I will be using HK or 4 max covering. Thank you for reply's Regards Malmaz Edited September 13 by malmaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Stephenson Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 This is what I use... https://deluxematerials.co.uk/collections/emulsion-adhesives/products/cover-grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hilton Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Use pva on the bandage instead of polyester resin .Covering sticks to that well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Berriman Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I have had success with good quality 2" masking tape 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgeflyer Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I wouldn't risk the strength of that joint by not using resin. Use the covergrip as advised above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu knowles Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 As above, Covering the glass with masking tape works well. Iron on film stick to the tape well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Flyer Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 To join the wings I use standard fibreglass tape and epoxy. Once it is set and any bumps filled and sanded, I just paint diluted pva on the fibreglass bandage. Let the pva dry properly and it acts as a heat activated glue . I use thin coats of diluted pva alternated with sanding to seal the wood grain before covering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malmaz Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 Thanks for all your advice and reply's , I think I might give the Cover Grip a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Gaskin 1 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 I have used the PVA & bandage method on many models without issue. In fact that was the preferred method listed in all of the Chris Foss kits (I haven't built one of his kits for donkeys ages so don't know if it is still current) Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 19 hours ago, Keith Berriman said: I have had success with good quality 2" masking tape Ditto ! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Billinge Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Another vote for Cover Grip. I like to put a bit round the edges of any model I'm going to cover and especially on things like the wing bandage. It's a really nice product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 The difficulty these days is finding good qualitymasking tape. Forget diy stores. Try a auto car factor and test the stickness before buying . Loads of stuff around and cheap... guess why... no adhesive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 33 minutes ago, Engine Doctor said: The difficulty these days is finding good qualitymasking tape. Forget diy stores. Try a auto car factor and test the stickness before buying . Loads of stuff around and cheap... guess why... no adhesive. Dependents what you mean by masking tape. The paper stuff certainly varies in stickiness - sometimes the adhesive is stronger than the paper and it's impossible to get off the roll without tearing. In any case, as masking tape it's just about useless (I use it mostly for temporarily holding things in place). For actual masking edges for painting I've found Frog tape as sold in B&Q to be pretty good with little or no seepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Hi Geoff. I have tried Frog tape with little success, again coming unstuck after a few mins . I forgot to put in my earlier post that Fine line tape is the best for masking giving very sharp lines but no good for covering over. A good sticky paper type Masking tape is better . I found in my car bodywork days that old stock masking tape or tape that had been kept in a damp atmosphere would tear while peeling off the roll . too many of todays offerings are just not fit for purpose and peel off after a few minutes Another way to get covering to stick to epoxy bandage is to sand smooth by filling the weave and being careful not to sand through the tape . Then give it a coat of Solarfilm Clear Coat . This stick to most sanded substrates and iron on coverings will stick to that like ..... well you know what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Griff Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 We're can you get clearcoat please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 5 minutes ago, Rich Griff said: We're can you get clearcoat please ? Ah ! Thats the problem these days. Solarfilm still have stocks of it but wont sell to shops and wont post it. Just too lazy I guess as many firms now carry paint etc. You can collect if you fancy a trip to Lancashire ! I look out for cans at bootfairs or swapmeets and a friend picked me up a 1/2 litre at Old Warden a while back . Brilliant fuel proofer and covering adhesive as its heat sensetive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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