Jon H Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Knock at least 10% off all prices for shop prices. Nice they are back though. Prices are...fine? i mean leeds have a 52 4 stroke at £160, which seems decent. They dont seem offensively priced to me, and it will be interesting to see if the material quality has improved at all. It also means i might be able to source a part or two for a lawn darted 160 flat i have hidden in a drawer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solly Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 21 hours ago, Dale Bradly said: Aliexpress lists them as ASP. Interesting that the manufacturer keeping the seperate brands. I wonder if Magnum will also return. Aliexpress also has one of the Evolution styled models back. Weston UK have had the Magnum 120fs and 180fs for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Dell Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 14 hours ago, Solly said: Weston UK have had the Magnum 120fs and 180fs for ages. I think they were Weston’s modified versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hearnden 1 Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Just looking at Aliexpress. The ASP 06 is 57 quid but after delivery & VAT is coming in at 72 pounds. Hmm do I really want it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) Is this a long lost crate of old production, or brand new metal coming out a re-opened line? sanyeengine.com website is alive - kind of - and seems to suggest the place getting back off the ground in 2021 (!) Edited October 10 by Nigel R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Interesting that JE used to advertise the ASP400 (same engine) for £976, now it's listed at £1740, that's some price rise and puts it in Saito (larger) petrol radial range! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 7 hours ago, Nigel R said: Is this a long lost crate of old production, or brand new metal coming out a re-opened line? ... That's what i was thinking? Is anyone stocking the 15 two stroke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 11 hours ago, Nigel R said: Is this a long lost crate of old production, or brand new metal coming out a re-opened line some have new hair and makeup (blue rocker covers) so that suggests a new run? 11 hours ago, Ron Gray said: Interesting that JE used to advertise the ASP400 (same engine) for £976, now it's listed at £1740, that's some price rise and puts it in Saito (larger) petrol radial range! that has to be a typo. Its only ('only') £1400 on the perkins site...unless.....nope, no collector ring included to make up the difference. Its a typo in my book as all of the other je prices are in line with the rrp perkins list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 If prices have risen its only to be expected . everything has gone up so why not our engines . Good to have a supply of half decent affordable engines back . Their add at the top of the page says "Better than ever" lets hope they are Better and not in the vein of the "New improved recipe " that that food maker often use that usually means a horrible smaller product, inferior tasting product to previous offering . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Colbourne Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 5 hours ago, Jon H said: some have new hair and makeup (blue rocker covers) so that suggests a new run? that has to be a typo. Its only ('only') £1400 on the perkins site...unless.....nope, no collector ring included to make up the difference. Its a typo in my book as all of the other je prices are in line with the rrp perkins list The SC400 is £1312.49 on the Model Shop Leeds webpage. It says 'special order' though, so one can only hope the price holds until you actually have your hands on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 Yes I saw that when comparing prices. I'm a little bit interested as I have a project coming up, the full size of which had a radial engine but I had planned to fit my Laser 360v which I had earmarked for the Corsair build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Acland Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 I think this is good news, the the prices have risen but so has just about everything else. If they have the spares range to over all engines great. I am sure there are plenty of people with an ASP or SC engine that is is awaiting that one spare part to get it running again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 2 hours ago, Ron Gray said: Yes I saw that when comparing prices. I'm a little bit interested as I have a project coming up, the full size of which had a radial engine but I had planned to fit my Laser 360v which I had earmarked for the Corsair build. I have a 1996 vintage sc radial and the best I ever managed was about 25 flights before mechanical failure. I have rebuilt it about half a dozen times and I am yet to get satisfactory performance from it. On the subject of performance, it's down on your ft310 and even a 300v but is more than twice the weight. I do plan to have another go at getting mine going, and my older version is not as good as the more modern offerings no doubt. But it's still a chunk of change for unknown performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Gray Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 Thanks Jon, I think I’ve come to the conclusion that the 360v will be the better bet for what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 I had a look at a new 52 an 90 sc fs last week . There seems to be some slight differences in finishing so look like a new run. Interestingly they also list them as having single billet crankshafts wheras the older ones had pressed in roller for big end . Will have to wait a while for a repair to come my way and check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Griff Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 (edited) Saw SC AP09 1.5cc hornet glow motor on rcme November mamon page today. Is this based on a previous SC engine please ? ABC, twin ball race bearing and possibly rc and cl carbs ? Any good you think ?? Awaiting more info and dimensioned drawing from supplier..... Edited October 21 by Rich Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 I have a AP 15 that I think was called the Hornet and the o9 is the wasp ? They were sold under the AP name , cant see any reference to SC on the box but still made by the same factory as SC, ASP etc I believe . The 15 is a great little engine and used it in a SPAD combat model . Very compact with a nice little rear mounted silencer . At the time they also did an 06 RC with a tiny side mounted silencer . a copy of the Big Mig I think . They may introduce the whole range ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 I may be in the market for one of their 15s. Who is stocking them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Gorham_ Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 Nobody is stocking them. the .15 isn't part of the range. Perkins show that the two smallest engines are the AP09 and the 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Griff Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 (edited) Wheelspin is showing the 09 hornet as *shadow stock* meaning "at Perkins". Hopefully Perkins have them in stock but..........don't hold your breath.... I too am after a 15, a *period* 15, glow or diesel, for a *period* c/l kit......more about that later. Edited October 21 by Rich Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2wings Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 46 minutes ago, Rich Griff said: Wheelspin is showing the 09 hornet as *shadow stock* meaning "at Perkins". Hopefully Perkins have them in stock but..........don't hold your breath.... I too am after a 15, a *period* 15, glow or diesel, for a *period* c/l kit......more about that later. I'm looking to scale back my engine collection and have a number of engines that would suit your project I.e. AM 25 pm me if interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Collinson Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 Forthcoming BMFA auction stuffed with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 16 hours ago, Rich Griff said: Wheelspin is showing the 09 hornet as *shadow stock* meaning "at Perkins". Hopefully Perkins have them in stock but..........don't hold your breath.... I too am after a 15, a *period* 15, glow or diesel, for a *period* c/l kit......more about that later. Rapid RC had 1 sc 09 in stock last weekend . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDB Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 20 hours ago, Engine Doctor said: Very compact with a nice little rear mounted silencer . Is there any benefit to the rear mounted silencer on the 09? I might be missing something but the side mounted silencers on my OS and Thunder Tiger 15's make mounting easier so don't understand why they haven't followed this tried and tested design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Many high performance engines had rear exhausts for better gas flow reasons - especially with tuned pipes. The side exhaust has to turn gas flow through an abrupt 90 degrees and there may be advantages in porting layout and internal gas flow although I make no claims to being an expert in two stroke design or tuning. However, the supplied silencer does seem to negate some of the advantages above! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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