Zflyer Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Trying to log in to update my registration but the site keeps saying it does not recognise my details. Any one else having problem. The e mail address i use is the one they sent to remind me and last time I checked my DoB was still the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Z Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Hi Don’t know about that as I’ve not tried their site. But I’ve today had an e-mail confirming my Operator and Flyer ID. It expires next Feb. So I guess that’s a computer blip as I renewed it last December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 I've just received an email from the CAA thanking me for registering. I followed the links to check my IDs and there are 2 apparently. One is Flyer ID and the other an Operator ID. Both have roughly the same format. The operator ID is the one I attach to my models. I have no idea why I received the email (neither is up for renewal) and, to be honest, I've no real idea why there are two different IDs required. I renew the Operator ID when I pay my BMFA sub ... I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Just recievied the same here Geoff Ken Anderson...ne..1..ID dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Yes, me too. Stupid waste of time as I've said in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON CRAGG Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Same here, deleted. I pay every year in January via our club. Spurious junk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cooper Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Maybe the CAA is "shifting the goalposts around" . . . again. We are all well aware of how bearuracracy can meddle with anything which is running smoothly. They alter their rules and then give us an explanation six months later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBG Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I have just received the email and presume it was sent out to notify everyone registered of their new flyer id which we didn't need previously. I seem to remember the BMFA saying previously that we would be issued with a flyer id sometime in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 As has always been said since Day 1,what is the point of all the ID's etc....? Ken Anderson....ne...1 ...pointless dept. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 8 minutes ago, ken anderson. said: As has always been said since Day 1,what is the point of all the ID's etc....? Ken Anderson....ne...1 ...pointless dept. Big brother is watching 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottenRow Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 28 minutes ago, GBG said: I have just received the email and presume it was sent out to notify everyone registered of their new flyer id which we didn't need previously. I seem to remember the BMFA saying previously that we would be issued with a flyer id sometime in the future. That's exactly what it is. As the BMFA said at the time (Andy Symons I think, on this forum, probably a year ago now), the 'new' flier ID ticks some box for the CAA and brings us in line with those that registered directly with it. The new number just sits in the background and you don't have to do anything with it. Strange that the CAA couldn't have synchronised the end date of the Flyer ID to match that of the existing Operator ID though. But that's the CAA isn't it.... It would perhaps have been advantageous if the BMFA had preceeded the CAA's e-mail with an announcement, it might have reduced the uncertainty of what it was about a bit. But they probably weren't informed by the CAA in advance of the e-mails going out. Brian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 38 minutes ago, ken anderson. said: As has always been said since Day 1,what is the point of all the ID's etc....? Ken Anderson....ne...1 ...pointless dept. Nothing more than a revenue raising tax that has no practical use. What do we get for our money?..........please don't just parrot "the opportunity to fly legally". We all manged to do that quite satisfactorily ages before all the current nonsense. From the CAA website - all you need to know really. Do the maths. "Drone registration was first introduced in the UK in 2019. While the 450,000 active registered users are significantly more then we or others predicted prior to registration, we believe there are still users out there yet to register. We want to help them understand the legal requirement and show them how quick and easy it is to register. On the deterrent angle, the Government has been working on the introduction of fixed penalty notices for some drone misuse with the change expected to be introduced in the near future." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Gorham_ Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, RottenRow said: That's exactly what it is. As the BMFA said at the time (Andy Symons I think, on this forum, probably a year ago now), the 'new' flier ID ticks some box for the CAA and brings us in line with those that registered directly with it. The new number just sits in the background and you don't have to do anything with it. Strange that the CAA couldn't have synchronised the end date of the Flyer ID to match that of the existing Operator ID though. But that's the CAA isn't it.... It would perhaps have been advantageous if the BMFA had preceeded the CAA's e-mail with an announcement, it might have reduced the uncertainty of what it was about a bit. But they probably weren't informed by the CAA in advance of the e-mails going out. Brian. That's funny because I've had two emails from Andy Symonds BMFA explaining exactly this. I guess many people haven't signed up to BMFA email notifications via the JustGo platform. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottenRow Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 22 minutes ago, Alan Gorham_ said: That's funny because I've had two emails from Andy Symonds BMFA explaining exactly this. I guess many people haven't signed up to BMFA email notifications via the JustGo platform. That's interesting Alan. I am signed up for notifications, and do receive them. The most recent was a few days ago, about a long-standing member who had passed away. Previous to that, one about the forthcoming AGM, BMFA News and Model Engine Auction. It seems that not all notifications go to all signed up members. Brian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 What's the difference between a Flyer ID and an Operator ID. They seem to be describing the same activity to me - when I'm flying a model I'm operating the RF link. I read in the paper this morning that criminals are seeking skilled drone flyers to deliver drugs etc (as well as, apparently, tomato ketchup!) directly into prison cells via the window. I bet none of them with have their operator ID attached 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, Geoff S said: What's the difference between a Flyer ID and an Operator ID. They seem to be describing the same activity to me - when I'm flying a model I'm operating the RF link. I read in the paper this morning that criminals are seeking skilled drone flyers to deliver drugs etc (as well as, apparently, tomato ketchup!) directly into prison cells via the window. I bet none of them with have their operator ID attached 🙂 Very effectively highlights the absurdity of the registration system. We're stuck with it for now and it could have been a lot worse - I accept that, but it's still a barmy situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Symons - BMFA Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Afternoon all. I sent an email out to all those that meet the CAA competency requirements by holding either an A or B cert from before the cutoff date or through having passed the BMFA RCC on Monday. Informing them they will soon be issued with a Flyer ID. It looks like a significant number haven't received it though which is odd. Will send another in the morning to clarify the situation. Nothing to worry about though. The Flyer ID simply shows that you meet the CAA 'competency' requirements. (Know the regs). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Z Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Not received anything / maybe I don’t know what is supposed to be happening. Life seemed so easier only 12 months ago. Even this reply has been a challenge ! Getting old I guess ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Andy Symons - BMFA said: Afternoon all. ... Will send another in the morning to clarify the situation. Nothing to worry about though. The Flyer ID simply shows that you meet the CAA 'competency' requirements. (Know the regs). I still have ABSOLUTELY no idea why the BMFA and CAA consider a dusty A or B that could have been earned in the early 70s means that the pilot In question knows and understands the regs today?! As such I remain convinced all of us are better off doing either the RCC or full Flyer ID test to demonstrate our understanding is up to date. I personally hold a Flyer ID based on the completion of the full CAA online test, as I would rather give that number to a plod than have to explain the BMFA RCC test and the proof of competency that it provides as the chance of them knowing about that and accepting it if they were questioning you at the field is probably quite low I'd imagine... Edited October 24 by MattyB 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, MattyB said: I still have no idea why the CAA consider a dusty A or B that could have been earned in the early 70s means that the pilot In question knows and understands the regs today?! As such I remain convinced all of us shoul do eirther the RCC or full Flyer ID test to demonstrate our understanding is up to date. I personally hold a full Flyer ID based on the completion of the full CAA online test, as I would rather give that number to a plod than have to explain the BMFA RCC test and the proof of competency that it provides. They honour driving licenses covered in dust. As to why it's accepted, I would guess they credit the BMFA for keeping it's membership informed, as a consequence we get the concession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 17 minutes ago, john stones 1 - Moderator said: They honour driving licenses covered in dust. As to why it's accepted, I would guess they credit the BMFA for keeping it's membership informed, as a consequence we get the concession. It’s good for Bmfa members that they do take that view I suppose but unfortunately I’ve seen a fair bit of evidence that often those leveraging the A or B exemption from the Flyer ID test either don’t understand the current regs despite the BMFA’s efforts, or are so disgruntled at the changes of the last few years they wilfully don’t want to comply. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, MattyB said: It’s good for Bmfa members that they do take that view I suppose but unfortunately I’ve seen a fair bit of evidence that often those leveraging the A or B exemption from the Flyer ID test either don’t understand the current regs despite the BMFA’s efforts, or are so disgruntled at the changes of the last few years they wilfully don’t want to comply. Agree It's not a perfect system Matty, no reason to punish those keeping informed though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 My email arrived this afternoon so it looks like perhaps the BMFA mail server is drip feeding the bulk mailing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxG Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I notice that the flyer ID and the Operator ID have different valid to dates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Symons - BMFA Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 10 minutes ago, MaxG said: I notice that the flyer ID and the Operator ID have different valid to dates. Flyer ID's are valid for 5 years, Operator IDs need renewing annually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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