[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Many thanks Danny. I'll try and press on with my Hobby King units, modifying them a bit if possible.

Cheers,

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Thanks Danny, I thought you must have turned them upside down!

Just two final points: where did you buy the oleos from? And could you give me the approximate compressed and extended lengths.

Many thanks,

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Hi Danny. I have a query or two about your valuable article in the September RCME mag where you describe your work on the Fury oleos, including the shrouds.

I bought two such oleos from Hobby King which I now find are not long enough for the job, some 160 cm overall needed, and they also have limited displacement as the spring is too stiff. I am assuming each leg supports about 5lb and the required deflection, according to the plan, between the loaded and unloaded positions is about 3.5cm.

I would be interested to know where you got your oleos from and whether they are about the above length and provide a comparable load displacement. Also it is not clear from the article how the attachments are made to both the 8 SWG.top wire and the 10 SWG axle. Any assistance greatly appreciated.

My progress has been slow, but I think sure. The airframe is complete and I have started covering with silver Oratex. This is coming on well, with a heat-controlled sealing iron the job is very enjoyable and the material is easy to work with. I have also completed some of the metal sheets for the 'the front end' in litho. Incidentally if anyone wants any litho give me a call.

Best wishes to all,

Stuart

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[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Thanks, I will include the missing forward wires.

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

On Dennis' plans there is no sign of a forward fin-to-tailplane supporting wire. The photos of the aircraft show two such wires...?

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Thanks Danny.

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Many thanks Danny for your very helpful, and detailed reply. In view of Andy's comment (and he has flown the Fury) is it better to leave out this significant amount of incidence? It does seem rather a lot...

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Your advice again Danny. From Sheet 1 of the plans it would seem as if there is an air gap under the fin when it is glued to the fuselage, above the tailplane. Since the tailplane is at a positive incidence of about 4 degrees this might be there so the incidence can be adjusted. However since the fin and tailplane are glued in place it would be difficult to readjust this incidence. Am I right in that there should be an air gap or perhaps I've got it all wrong!

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

In case anyone has changed their mind about using litho sheets for the Fury this is just to say I still have a number of 30x45 cm sheets available. Send me a PM if you are interested, with your details. They are about 0.15mm thick which I find is ideal for the job.

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Danny, you are a kind lad! I'd love you to make me one... I think you'd deserve at least a double whisky..

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Thanks Danny and Martian. I don't think the glass fibre board parts contain an elevator horn. Any chance, Danny, you remember which commercial firms make a suitable version? I'm not experienced in silver soldering - could learn I suppose!

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Any ideas welcomed on how to get a 'commercial elevator horn' as shown on Sheet 2? I suppose I could try and make one.

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Hi Danny. No doubt I'm being stupid but do we assume Dennis Bryant wants us to glue both the fin and tailplane to the fuselage? Seems a little unusual...

Thanks, Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Hi Ernie. That is kind of you. Perhaps you would lighten the background, I think the diamond was off-white, so the colours of the cock would also be stronger.

Perhaps you would PM the final version to me in as high a resolution as the transmission allows.

I thought if I get a number of the class interested we could keep the price of decals etc. within bounds!

Thanks, Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Thanks Danny. Yes, I have looked on your flicker pages and one or two of the cock images would be fine if I could download/save the emblem alone. I was hoping you would do it for me as I don't know how to select part of the total image and then save it ...

Sorry about my lack of technical ability!

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

I have been in touch with Nigel Wagstaff of Flightline Graphics re the possibility of him providing decals etc. of K5674 at Duxford. He says this is possible but he would particularly need a detailed image of the cock on the fin of K5674 to do a good job.

I wonder if Martyn, Tony, Danny or any other member could PM me any such image and I will pass it on to Nigel.

He has recently moved house so there will be a delay before the new workshop is up and running..

I have given him a few images of my own to start him thinking...

Thanks,

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Any ideas about getting the 'Mercury' wing fasteners (or similar) shown on the plan?

Thanks,

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

I have been doing a bit of research regarding wing-rigging accessories. It maybe of interest to some members of the gang...

I found the following:

1. Prime-Miniatures (www.prime-miniatures.co.uk) for:

shackles, turnbuckles, eyebolts, Al swaging ferrules, miniature 7x7 stainless steel wire rope, etc.

2. Model Shop Leeds (www.modelshopleeds.co.uk) for:

Sullivan gold-n-clevises and Dubro 4-40 rigging couplers.

3. Topmodel (French) (www.topmodel.fr) for:

miniature turnbuckles etc.

4. Tecni (www.tecni.uk) for:

double copper swaging ferrules for miniature wire rope

5. Vogelsang Aeroscale (USA) for:

miniature cable thimbles, etc.

I can recommend the Prime-Miniatures steel wire rope; it is a miniature 7x7 construction and surprisingly flexible. I wouldn't think it would need thimbles. The Sullivan clevises are high quality with a safety-lock, but they need the Dubro 4-40 thread couplers (not metric).

Anyway just a thought...

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Thanks for your comments Danny. The hinge line actually isn't outside the trailing edge, what you are seeing is the slightly curved carbon rod external to the wingtip. When the wing is finally covered this will be cut off and 'tacked' to S2 where it lies in a V-groove.

The ailerons do hinge freely and the gaps look OK.

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Hi Danny,

Many thanks for the advice on F6, I will 'fettle away' and I'm sure it will fit.

The aileron construction went OK, if somewhat laborious. As you may see from the photo I fitted a 1.5mm carbon rod to act as the shaft for the hinges, threaded through a v-cut in the back of the 1/2 inch balsa curved shrouds. To ensure correct alignment of the aileron with the wing the rod was threaded before I glued the hinges in place. Any ideas about securing the outboard end of it will be welcome!

As you can see I went to town on the wing servos, having experienced too much 'chatter' from some cheaper makes.

Following Andy's good example I will fit webs to the wing spars, particularly as they are of balsa.

Cheers, Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Hi Danny.

I have completed the wings so I have started on the fuselage - problem is I am confused about F6. You were good enough to draw up a revised layout for F6 but I see that Andy has fitted the shaped former shown on the plan and Graham LL in his valuable description of his Fury build does not mention any problem with F6.

Hence my dilemma!

Any help appreciated,

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Many thanks Andy for all the trouble you took to show me so clearly your intended layout of the wing servo mounting. Because the drive axis is at right angles to the bellcrank axis the end of the servo arm will be below the wing covering and the drive to the aileron horn will be roughly parallel to the underside of the wing. This geometry should be OK, I think, although the horn arm will be at an angle to this drive shaft..

I have used Hitec HS-85MG wing servos on my 1/6th scale Mick Reeves Spitfire to good effect after I had problems with cheaper 'Chinese' servos. The new MacGregor MG2611WHV 11Kg.cm high voltage looks very interesting, also its slightly smaller twin the MG2107WHV 6.6Kg.cm version. They would appear to have a high quality specification.

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Andy, Danny kindly sent a copy of your method of mounting the wing servos. What servos would you recommend ?

I have been looking at flat wing servos, they seem powerful enough but I am unsure about the servo arm length I can fit in. Any tips welcomed...

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

I was perusing the Peter Warburg drawings taken from the original Hawker Siddeley Fury1 production drawings (approved by Sidney Camm) and came across the following useful wing info:

Top wing: dihedral 1 degree, incidence 3 degree 20 minutes

Bottom wing: dihedral 3 degrees 30 minutes, incidence 3 degrees 50 minutes.

I shall 'press on' with using litho, I love the really shiny parts of the Fury.

Stuart

[RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI]

Capstrip bending worked a treat Gordon. Used a 1/2in dowel.

Many thanks,

Stuart