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JD do make sure you put a restrainer of some sort on the servo leads as the breeze around that socket will work the plugs loose in flight, been there and ripped the T shirt in anger lol otherwise a smart solution

[The Seagull E-Pioneer thread]

I did leave mine un boltable and it helped when repairing the fire wall on my rather small work bench, also took the nylon nuts out and used metal T nuts

[The Seagull E-Pioneer thread]

On the subject of the motor mount mine came with both of them in kit form though the large one had two bottom sections and no top my only real complaint at the time of construction. I too bolted through the mount into the fire wall just seemed sensible

[The Seagull E-Pioneer thread]

Nice presentation JD, that bty looks only a tad bigger than my 4000mah 4S.I notice you've used the nylon bolts to secure the nose, I went for a metal version with no detrimental effects and it gave me 4 spare bolts for the wing that I've not had to use yet, you can bet your shirt I'll lose one eventually though

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That sounds like you got a Friday afternoon model JD mine has done several hours flight time and the only weakness to show up is the fire wall when I dropped her short of the runway in long ish grass and the nose wheel ripped it out, she now has a six mm version epoxied in with triangle stock front and rear, similar subsequent mishaps have resulted in a slightly bent nose wheel leg and nothing else

[The Seagull E-Pioneer thread]

JD don't overdo the epoxy or added bearers as the only strength issue I found was the fire wall to fuselage joint. On a 3300mah 3S with a 1000kv motor pulling nearly 475W on an 11x10 prop with an all up weight of 4.5lb mine flew fine albeit as a very stable and benign trainer, would just about loop but that's it.

Were as on a 4000mah 4S and an 11x8.5 prop weighing 4.7lb and having 700W on tap she is, obviously much livelier tight loops, messy rolls (my skills or lack of), long ish vertical climbs to a well defined stall turn, are all possible, along with slightly shorter take of runs all in all a nicer aircraft for an intermediate pilot

[Let's see all the April Fools jokes then....]

LOL beat me to it too did any one spot this bargain though

Invisible jet

Damm piped at the post by Daithi

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[Greenacres 2015 fly-ins chat]

Posted by john stones 1 on 31/03/2015 22:47:24:

We'll be needing to concentrate with a mass fly if they all turn out for G.A

John

And then some I'd say

[The Seagull E-Pioneer thread]

Janos depending on your experience the 800W option would be a good one, because of the extra weight it won't fly much longer per charge but its performance will be more sport and less trainer, 800W is what I have in mine currently on a similar prop to what your looking at for a 4s set up. Loops and stall turns are on the button, rolls less so but I do still need to increase the aileron rates, little by little, also the extra weight gives her more stability in less than calm conditions. I fly on the top of a very exposed hill in Devon, so wind is something I've had to learn about, or not fly to often. I am beginning to believe that with the right power set up she will all but fly the B schedule.

[The Atom Special]

Top dollar David

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Posted by Janos Deak on 31/03/2015 06:14:54:

Hello Bob

that is good news 😃

 

One Pioneer is on the way... I got one at a great price

I have other trainers havng Futaba s3003 servos but I hope I can fit smaller ones like Emax es08 metal gears into this one.

I have a lot of these and are very good... The pioneer has no pushrods áll along the body, so the small ones shold do ok... Unless the factory holes are too big... It would be simple just to test fit, I know but it is on the way and servos take time to arrive too so I want to order them. What do you think, are these ok or should i look for bigger ones?

I have an 80A esc and an emax gt2826-4 motor clocking 800w on 4s in my other plane which I plan to strip but i plan to run it on 3s /2800mah in the pioneer at approx 4-500w. I have a few of these batteries from my 450 helis 😃

worst case i just buy a 4s/3000 battery 😃

What do you think on my planned setup? I would be happy to have your opinion...

also there are links to your build log in this forum but they are pointing to an empty dir... Is it available still somewhere?

thanks

Janos

 

 

 

That's all looking good mate though I'd use no less than a 3300 3s or balance will be difficult to achieve. my COG was on 3s a tad behind the recommended and she felt a tad tail heavy at times,

I have been lucky and only pranged mine once, but from that experience I'd recommend a good look at the fire wall glue joints before assembling possibly adding some triangle behind it using epoxy, my original set up used a 1000 kv 35 series ntm prop drive motor and as I've said the battery had to be hard against the fire wall to get anywhere near a proper balance, she now has a 4000 4s which is only 20mm back from the fire wall and she flies much better, not that she was unpleasant to fly before, in fact truly benign would be an accurate description, just watch the stall on landing as she will tempt you to go so slow you end up dumping her on the runway as the stall is simply a vertical drop with level wings

All that said she is still the 1st model I get out and the last one to be packed away at the end of the day after all she got me safely through my A test last august

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[Easy To Use CAD For Beginners]

Whoops hope that doesn't mess the thread formating up to much for you all

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Well just one email later and I have what is likely to be the most definitive answer on the compatability of total cad I'm likely to get, from the horses mouth so to speak

I quote from an email from Tim Kirkland one of focus multimedia's technical assistants

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Hello Philip

Thanks for contacting us.

Though I don’t use it extensively I do have Total Cad V2 installed onto Windows 8.1x64 and it runs fine.

I hope that helps.

Regards

Tim

Tim Kirkland Technical Services Assistant Email: [email protected].uk Head Office: +44 (0)1889 570156 Direct Line: +44 (0)1889 571232 Fax: +44 (0)1889 583571	QUALITY, CHOICE AND VALUE	Focus Multimedia Ltd The Studios, Lea Hall Enterprise Park, Wheelhouse Road, Rugeley, Staffordshire, WS15 1LH, UK. www.focusmm.co.uk

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Posted by Stephen Jones on 29/03/2015 00:22:34:

Hi Phil ,

The box i am holding only mentions Windows XP \ Vista \ Windows 7 .

So i guess Windows 8 64 bit is out off the question , unless it can be run in compatibility mode .

Steve

Thanks Stephen looking like I'll have to spend a tad more and get Turbo cad then. Not a fan of compatability modes there often lacking in stability

[Winter seems to have arrived, who's been flying?]

Some lovely Pics there, but you got to ask, was the fence post OK

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all clocks on auto John I'll miss the hour though

[Easy To Use CAD For Beginners]

Now a quick question, does total cad work on windows 8.1 (64 bit system) the add on maplins site mentions 7 but not 8

[Easy To Use CAD For Beginners]

I think I just may have to go 3D after seeing the work happening here, The following is about 8 hrs work for me on Solid edge 2D and there is are still some wrinkles to iron out before going into the workshop with these plans, the subject is an ultralight M19 flying squirrel, a nice simple home built design that should produce a nice floaty flyer for those balmy summer evenings we all dream of. 1500mm wing span, for about a 52 FS or equivalent electric, probably on a 4S setup.

First the subject

Very reminiscient of something else from this angle

Now my 3 view this was basically traced over a .bmp image of the designers 3 view

Side view after much work, mirrored to allow the fuselage to be built in two halfs over the plan, a great way to get a straight fuselage printed out a A0 will give a full size plan

The front view drawing still in need of some work but as it's mainly for reference only probably not that much

Plan view, once again for reference hence the host of dimensions shown

The parts sheet, formated so if I desire I can send it of for laser cutting, just a scale to add, and the desicion on whether to make flat sheet tail feathers or built up ones, prob the latter

And finally the wing layout sheet to build the wing panels over, the second main panel is included so both panels can be built at the same time

[Johns Atom]

Hopefully not as much as is forecast here tomorrow, 50mph gusts most of the day, discretion and valour are words that spring to mind

[Johns Atom]

Looking good John just make sure you get a good spin up before trying to take of

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That's pretty cool to say the least, a big

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haven't seen that sight for few years John, when did they pop the wind turbine up?

I had few flights today and ripped the left rudder of the atom trying once again to get a decent head speed, this time in 7mph wind she tried to lift way to early and performed a very large and embarrassing ground loop to the left, about 40' diameter, trying desperately to keep the rotors of the ground by giving her all the right aileron she has, managed it just, at the cost of the rudder.

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[Easy To Use CAD For Beginners]

Try this Tony just did things a lot slower

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Posted by Tony Bennett on 22/03/2015 20:29:30:

yes well hmmmm

i got none of that.

Watch on Utube and full screen Tony follow the pointer the pop up menus describe each button function as I hover over them, you have to, unfortunately, be quick to read them maybe I can edit it to run slower ??

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There is a lot of good tuition going on here and I see the national sales of paracetamol going through the roof time to buy some shares

Everyone seems to be going along the 3D route and its easy to see the attraction, however I've used a 2D package for a while now and it serves my basic purposes well, yes you need to be able to convert to 3D in your head but having worked with other peoples design drawings most of my working life I tend to be able to visualise quite easily.

Just a quick demo video here of my system Solid Edge ST6 2D

This is just a demo showing the use of lines converted to B spline curves and mirroring, after reading much of the above this, possibly because I'm used to it, seems considerably simpler