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Ok , Now your explained it a little better you are in fact a little tail heavy rather than the other way around ,Reflex is an upward trim of the elevons that take up the bottom shape of the airfoil .We have found that dialling the CG in that the best trim is neutral so elevons level with the foil centreline, Obviously by your latest description you need to move the CG forward to achieve this. I use a 20 gram stick on wheel weight and move it forward or backward to achieve the perfect position . temp tape the weight and try a launch , the optimum is zero trim .It will surprize you the difference it will make. @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);
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Steve, I think you'll find that your probably nose heavy and carrying excess reflex to fly level ,May I suggest moving the cg rearward a little at a time and removing the reflex till its level (meaning zero up trim . You'll also need to reduce the elevator throw down as well but once dialled in it will be fine the beevo's are pretty quick without extra ballast but you need to trim it in .Penetration is not just about AUW its also about a cleanly trimmed wing IMHO @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);
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@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); Yep thanks Tim, I did exactly that 3 times but it wouldn't work ? P.S I'm not spring chicken either but I dont mind the music @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);Edited By stephen wenban on 16/07/2011 10:43:56
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@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); Hope you dont mind ,but seeing as Our slope fest is coming up fast I just thought I may throw a Video up that a new recuit to the slope put together about last years event . he's only 16 and I think he did extremely well and captured the feel of the event. He's also hooked on slope now and champing at the bit for this years event . Sorry tried to embed the video a few times but just didnt seem to want to play the game for me. @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); Edited By stephen wenban on 16/07/2011 00:07:20 Edited By stephen wenban on 16/07/2011 00:08:05 Edited By stephen wenban on 16/07/2011 00:10:19 Edited By Tim Mackey - Administrator on 16/07/2011 09:11:03
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@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); NOOOOOOOOO dont do it ,,,,,they may sound like fun for the first 5 minutes then everyone including yourself will hate you with that annoying whinning quaaaaaaaackkk sound mixed with a whislte that just wont stop @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);Edited By stephen wenban on 12/07/2011 20:00:30
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great job for your first crack at foam and tape Ian@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);
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Windrider Beevo Covering
stephen wenban replied to Steve Houghton 1's topic in Gliders and Gliding - General Discussion
As Lee said let it dry , I always use Spray adhesive on the foam for the fibre tape to adhere to it is also wiseto wipe the fibre tape down with a cloth with a light moistening of acetone to remove the release agent from the back side of the fibre tape ,you know the stuff thats tops it sticking together on the rolls .I use 125 Micron Lamin film with my standard heat sealing iron set on high with out any problem . And it sticks like sea gull poo on a beach towel. the latest covering I'm using is oracal PVC vinyl which is the sign writing vinyl ,absolutey the bee's knees for covering and adding strength and stiffness to foam. @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); -
1 of my local slopes,its park and fly although my winter slope is only 8 minute drive and about a 5 minute walk to the launch site.@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);
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Windrider Beevo Covering
stephen wenban replied to Steve Houghton 1's topic in Gliders and Gliding - General Discussion
I've laminated over solarfilm without a problem, you just need to keep the iron moving@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); -
Windrider Beevo Covering
stephen wenban replied to Steve Houghton 1's topic in Gliders and Gliding - General Discussion
this is one side of the wings I'm working on now ,full fibre tape and cover with Lam film @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); -
Windrider Beevo Covering
stephen wenban replied to Steve Houghton 1's topic in Gliders and Gliding - General Discussion
No problem ,your more likely to find Lam film at office supply's than a hobby shop You can get from a fellow flyer in New Zealand through online purchase if you cant find it he also has Orcal vinyl which is supper tough covering in any colour you can think of @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); -
The biggest trap that most fall into is stretching the tape this is usually where the creases coming into it it can also warp the wing laying the tape down in a relaxed fashion gets the job done very easy ,to which it looks like Ian did do nice job Ian@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);
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Windrider Beevo Covering
stephen wenban replied to Steve Houghton 1's topic in Gliders and Gliding - General Discussion
Just a tip with the covering ,the new stuff as we call it, which real name is laminating flim is the ducks guts for foam you dont even need Fibre tape as is structurally solid all by its self A lot of the guys are now using the coloured packing tape and then covering with lam film. I'm currently building a prototype 2.4 mtr span foamie for a New Zealand Manufacturer the wing as supplied had 1x 6.35mm carbon tube spar and the wing is so thin you could see through it .I didn't think I could get the wing stiff enough span wise to make it viable however I fully fibre taped it and then applied a full covering on 25 micron Laminating film and the wing panels are like ironing boards. it applies exactly the same as any other heat shrink film but far far stronger. Oh BTW the Bee can and does fly heavy in fact some of the guys here DS them. If you google up the Predator Bee Mods you will find a whole new world of the ability of the bee. Ming is one of our many sponsors for the Manilla slope fest down here and the are a much sort after prize in the last man standing combat event You'll enjoy it they fly very well indeed. @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); -
when sanding or doing anything on a glue joint I always run 2" wide masking tape over the foam to cover any area exposed to damage especially on EPS, its not so bad on EPP but I still cover it Edited By stephen wenban on 06/07/2011 23:32:39
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Posted by Tony Smith 7 on 06/07/2011 13:36:40: When foam models first came out, Silicone was recommended for gluing and for fixing servos. Does that still work with modern foams? Tony the only thing I use silicone for is hinging. I use the gorilla glue wrap the servo in cling wrap and stuff it into the servo well and put some weight on it to hold it during the foam up. Once dry you cut the excess foam remove the servo and clean up with a sharp knife your newly and perfectly shaped to the servo potted servo well . Then you only need Fibre tape over the top to hold it in , it also makes for easy maintenance of the servo ,because you can just cut the tape and slide the servo out of its cosy bed P.S. Silicone remains flexible and you dont want your servo moving all over the shop. Edited By stephen wenban on 06/07/2011 22:08:33 Edited By stephen wenban on 06/07/2011 22:10:12
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once cured you can use a new snapoff blade and just cut the excess off . I have to say WOW i've not seen a EPP leading edge EPS mix on a Chervon wing since the late 90's . Not sure what price they are over there for that but maybe a good alternative is a windrider Bee which is a moulded EPP wing . Bit late now but save the info for latyer on