thanx steve, the username, mart, was already taken so i just put in anything, but have changed it now. the spitfire has 27" wingspan so i am more confident to have a go after seeing yours fly so superbly. will post a vid when done. thanx, mart... @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);