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Futaba compatible receiver
Mark Lubbock replied to Mike Pendleton's topic in General Radio Discussion
I use a GWS pico for all my micro models-never had any problems & assuming it is a small model, range isn't an issue-I fly my IFO using one of these & fly is as far away as I am comfortable vision wise. You can always save weight on some recievers by dispesing with the case-you would be surprised at how much a bit of plastic can weigh! Hope this helps. -
Many thanks David & others for the kind comments. There must be many old free plans out there from that era both R/C & F/F that would make excellent subjects for todays small elecric motors-this power setup would be ok for anything originally powered by, say, a Cox Pee Wee .020 to a 1-1.5cc Diesel of the era. Got to be worth trawling through the stockpile of old mags? As for me, I have just recieved another of these little motors & after the sucess of the Elf intend to design a similar size but more scalish design-watch this space!!
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I have a bit more info now: The motor is a 22g micro brushless from Giant Cod-comes with a heatsink stick mount, 5"prop & saver all for around £7! Wattmeter arrived today so here are some figures-On the supplied prop & 900mAh 2s lipo it draws 41.5W flat out & around 20W in what I estimate to be the 'cruise' power. The 20 min flight times would appear to confirm this. The model can be made to 'hover' in a slight breeze with no sighn of tip stalling. The model will roll & loop on the recommended settings, but I have reprogrammed the radio to give this on 'low' rates & about 60% more on 'high'. Not had a chance to fly it like this yet. Heres another couple of covered photos:
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Useful info for small IC conversion
Mark Lubbock replied to Mark Lubbock's topic in General Electric Flight Chat
I'm not surprised Bob!!! Looking at some old engine tests, 120W is about what a 1950's 2.5cc diesel would have put out!!! My wattmeter arrived today, excellent piece of kit from GC & only ordered Mon evening, & yes, it shows 41.5W flat out & around 20W in the estimated cruise. (I am an electrical engineer, so my Ohm's Law etc. should be right!!!) -
Useful info for small IC conversion
Mark Lubbock replied to Mark Lubbock's topic in General Electric Flight Chat
Quick update: I have just put an ammeter on the model & it draws 5.8A a full throttle & around 3A at what I estimate I fly it at normally. Roughly assuming 7v this is a 21W cruise & 40W flat out. I think this shows what can be done with a light, efficient model-it compares pretty well to the Cox's output, given the weight saving. I have just ordered a Wattmeter from Giant Cod, I will update this post with some more accurate readings when it arrives. The motor I am using is a GC 22g motor which comes with a 5x3 prop (which I am using) for around £7. Hope this helpsEdited By Mark Lubbock on 02/09/2009 11:31:52 -
Useful info for small IC conversion
Mark Lubbock replied to Mark Lubbock's topic in General Electric Flight Chat
You have to remember, most small ic engines need a very small prop to achieve their max power & are normally run below peak revs, even Coxes. Couple this to the largeish props swung by a low Kv outrunner, any loss in efficiency is soon made up. In my experience this seems to be true-my 2lb weight Veron Deacon flew well on a 1.5cc diesel producing around .1hp/80 or so watts-the performance on a cheap bell motor drawing 7-8A from a 2s lipo (50-55W) is at least as good. As for weight, the ic model has to carry a flight nicad-a 4xAA pack weighs 110g as opposed to 50g for a 900 2s lipo, so add a bit of fuel & the balance swings in favour of the small electric, combined with the micro gear we have today we can achieve a much lower flight weight. The original version of the model pictured had to put up with what passes for micro gear in 1986, a 225 mAh nicad + a sliding servo mech for the elevons & needed balllast to balance correctly-we really have never had it so good. I love my IC engines & am still not convinced for high power applications that electric flight makes sense, but I think that for these small models lipos & brushless motors are an absolute revelationEdited By Mark Lubbock on 01/09/2009 20:21:44 -
I have just looked at the Cox engines page of Wikepaedia. Here, the author conveniently gives the power output in Watts for some of the engines: Babe Bee .049 = 42W Black Widow .049 = 60W Tee Dee .049 = 72W The model below was originally designed for a Black Widow & comes out approx 30% lighter with electric power making for a sparkling performance on around 50W. It's worth looking around old magazines for old free plans for small engines as many would have a new lease of life with modern small & cheap brushless motors & super light servos & Rx's Hope this is of use to someone.
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We tend to just sit around in the sun(?), chat & have a drink unless we are going somewhere-I just do a bit here & there when I get bored with all that, but yes, my Wife Carole is great (think it saves her having to talk to me!) If you have a look at my other photos, you will see another i did a couple of years ago-still flying well. wouldn't be surprised if OK for EDF with some mods-I will get a wattmeter on it & see what power it uses (I suspect around 50W but it flies happily on half throttle & nearly vertical on full). The model spans 28" & has 240sq in of wing area, so is quite a floater but also shows a good turn of speed & seems virtually unstallable on the recommended control throws.Edited By Mark Lubbock on 01/09/2009 09:48:31
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I like to give myself something to do during our hols in case the weather turns nasty-in the event, the model was built & flown in 1 week, draw your conclusions there!! Model is ELF 16, a Dave Boddington design originally a free plan in RCM&E in 1986. Original used a Cox .049 & a sliding servo mech for the elevons. Mine is electric powered & uses giant Cod''s 2.4GHz computer radio, 8g servos & a 900mAh 2s lipo & GC micro motor. Flies for around 20 mins without flattening the battery & weighs 11.1 oz, compared with the original''s 1 lb. shows how far things have progressed. Flies superbly as do all DB''s designs I have built
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Giant cod (excellent)
Mark Lubbock replied to Mark Lubbock's topic in R/C Retailers / Distributors / Manufacturers
Hi Myron-they have the recievers in stock now-I have just bought one of their 2.4GHz computer sets & some RX's-they are truly excellent for the price (£52 for Tx & Rx, £10 for the Rx!) & perform superbly. The budget non computer set is only £25 & even has a V-tail mixer! -
Hi Danny, I always do as you describe & go over the edge of the tape with a matching paint first-just a thin stripe along the edge does it-I expect clear will do OK also. The problem with liquid masks is that they also have to be put on either freehand or with masking/stencils & creep can occur here & if you can mask freehand, you may as well paint freehand-not as difficult as it sounds, but you do need Artists 'lining' brushes for best results
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IFO Covering
Mark Lubbock replied to Mark Lubbock's topic in Building from Traditional Kits and Plans
Thanks Simon, I was thinking of something like that-maybe a Harrods bag for that 'up market' look!. However, I have found some metallic wrapping in a card shop in a very attractive metallic green, only £1 for 5 sheets-it will take 2 sheets to cover the IFO & it seems to be a metallised Mylar, so should be ideal. I will experiment first & let you know how I get on. It's available in silver, red, gold & blue, so may be quite versatile, especially if it heat shrinks. -
My IFO covering is showing it's age & the covering film used on it doesn't seem to be available anywhere now & heatshrink films are, I suspect, not suitable. I can see why, the 'unused' adhesive on the open side would pick up a lot of dirt & apparrently, a heat sealing iron causes bent CF to crack. Has anyone any suggestions on what to use & where to get it please?
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I placed an order with them around 2330 on Sunday night-All the items ordered arrived today. My order totalled around £46 including postage & the cost locally (if indeed they had it in stock) would have been well over £100! Excellent service-thanks
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As far as I know the only powered aircraft you can fly without a licence are foot launched machines such as Paramotors (which I fly) & powered hang gliders. They are still subject to the ANO just as we are when flying our models. Notwithstanding this, I did approx 12 months of training before I felt competent to actually fly. Even if this guy had a licence, he was in breach of the ANO in endangering not only himself & his aircraft, but those around him. It's just lucky he got away with it, he was obviously out of control & that machine could have gone anywhere. Just think if one of the models had also hit it-it would be in the press that "model plane brings down aircraft" with all the attendant bad press for us. Doesn't bear thinking about.
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Hi, I buy all my diesel from Southern Modelcraft-they are at most of the major shows, but I'm not sure if they mail order. Half a gallon is £10 ish & is excellent stuff. Ether can be bought from chemical suppliers ( not from Boots as I used to in the '70s!!), but is expensive & be prepared to be asked some questions as it is also used by the drugs fratentity, I believe. An alternative source if you are desperate is Easy Start, about £3 for a 300ml can. Hope this helps
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Weston Park anyone?
Mark Lubbock replied to Mark Lubbock's topic in Shows, Club Events and Competitions
I do the same & yes they should do a discount for OAPs. I did cosford a few years ago & it was excellent -
Decent kits to make
Mark Lubbock replied to Borg's topic in Building from Traditional Kits and Plans
if you want a model of similar type to the Guilliows kits the West Wings kits are very good-also Flair do a few small rubber jobs (or they used to, at least)