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This is a picture of motor ESC and the loose battery connector. The lipo was split open across the bottom section. I discharged it fully yesterday removed leads and insulated the wires then put it in a bucket of water afterwards. The battery got warm and swelled during discharging using only a very small 12v light globe. This tells me it was good to get rid of it safety wise.
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Thanks for your comments. I have tested receiver,ESC and motor all okay have found a stripped elevator servo but that could of happened when the fuselage broke off just in front of the tail. I have found the plug on the battery was very loose and could easily undo . My guess is that's the cause of the crash no power. Now I have to deal with the damaged lipo I was told to totally discharge it by plugging a 12v light globe then chop off leads and insulate them then put it in a bucket of water for about a week then send it to recyclers.
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I have used the radio DX6 on other planes and gliders with no problems of range or performance. I think I can confidentl eliminate the radio as being faulty. I think the best way for me to go as far as a rebuild goes would be to rebuild the fuselage out of foam board. It is cheap and easy to work with. I can salvage the wings and tail section. Test the servos Esc receiver and motor etc as I go. To rebuild the original fuselage would be like rebuilding a jigsaw puzzle with pieces missing.
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The battery is a lipo and it has been damaged. I will try another battery. Even the leads to the motor from the ESC were ripped out. Looks like the prop shaft is also bent as well. I doubt it's worth repairing
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The trainer went over all the whole plane checking servos and linkages. Checked movement and throws of ailerons and elevator. After the crash we found the battery had shot forward and unplugged from the ESC. Had me wondering whether it had some how unplugged during flight but I doubt it it was securely held in place by Velcro straps plus the battery has Velcro strip attachment to the fuselage. We did a range check prior to flight.
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I had five flights with my instructor today. It was gusty but I coped pretty well. I was doing take offs, figure eights, procedure turns and landings. I was using the clubs Apprentice trainer planes. I had a plane a Cessna of my own which needed to be test flown by and instructor to make sure it was okay after I had repaired it. I was given it after the previous owner had crashed it. It took off fine and flew for about five minutes the trainer said it was a good plane and I had done a good job of repairing it. Then the trainer said oh I have just lost contact with the plane. It did a death spiral straight into the ground from about 100ft height. I wasn't upset the plane could have done that with anyone flying it. That's the risk you take what caused it I don't know the receiver was a Spectrum AR610 whether that was faulty I don't know but if I am able to repair the plane I will make sure I will get a new receiver. Oh well that's a lesson for me !
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I am only a learner flyer myself I have been flying mainly a Apprentice aircraft with a trainer. A different trainer has had me fly his bixler. I find the bixler is much more reactive and find myself proposing along. In wind it is difficult land and have trouble getting the nose to drop. Touching the throttle it just about goes vertical into the wind. I thought it might be a cog problem and asked the trainer about it and he said the cog was set correctly. He said it was a characteristic of the plane because of the push prop set up.
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I had a session with a different trainer. He has the apprentice and a bixler. After a few flights with the apprentice he trusted me to fly his bixler. It was fairly windy and the bixler was somewhat lighter than the apprentice. It was affected badly by the wind. I thought the apprentice was bad but the bixler was worse. Trying to land was difficult the plane into the wind.It just kept lifting it's nose it seemed like it needed extra weight on the nose. I did not have a chance to check the cog. If I get to fly it again I will check it. Over all I did like flying it I have been thinking about buying a similar plane eg SkySurfer 1.4 with a push prop. Bangood have them on sale for around $100 au. PNP model. I just checked Bangood advertised free delivery for this I went through the process of ordering one and they are charging $70 delivery so much for free delivery!! So I cancelled the order.
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We have a few members who fly jets, nearly all use some sort of stability device. I guess it's because of the speeds these planes fly and how easy it is to get into trouble flying them. My preference is slow flying planes I really like gliders but for me to be able to fly mine at my club I must get qualified to fly a powered plane before I am allowed to fly solo choosing whatever plane I choose up to 2kg weight limit. As it is at present I am accumulating planes even though I am not qualified to fly them. I have been given some including two gentle lady gliders, a plane called a photon I copied off of the net, a Phoenix 1.6s glider, the Cessna and a plane called a hawk similar to a bixler . Hoarding I guess it must be contagious!
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The club does use Apprentices the trainers stricktly teach with the stability mode turned off. It is believed it can bring on bad habits and cause problems when you go to fly your own plane which might not have a stability function.
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I have had a few different trainers and methods vary. One uses 50% expo on his transmitters. Which does throw you around a bit when the next trainer uses none. Taking off varies as well one says go full throttle immediately using rudder to keep straight the next trainer says get the plane moving slowly then gradually increase throttle then use small amounts of elevator. The site we fly is very exposed and windy nearly every day so flying and landing in winds is a must to learn. I really appreciate the guys who are the trainers for their efforts giving up their own time willingly.
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I have been learning to fly now for about four months. I spend a lot of time on my simulator using Phoenix 5.5 flying the Apprentice model the same plane I am flying at the club. Progress is slow the instructors are great at the club. My first flight of the day I am always nervous and my hands are shaking. I guess you could say it's a shake down cruise for me. Usually by the third flight of the day I am flying more relaxed and doing much better. I have been doing circuits then procedure turns, figure rights flying away and towards you. My take offs are not good most of the days have been windy of late which doesn't help with such a light plane. I am confident at landing the plane and taxiing the plane on the ground. My main issues are maintaining level flight when doing figure eights and procedure turns. I seem to use too much aileron and not enough elevator. I am sure it will come with more practice. I now have a Cessna 1.4 trainer plane which I was able to buy from a member of the club who had crashed it. It was only minor damage requiring a new propeller and replacing one servo and a bit of hot glue. I have had it checked by the instructors at the club and they have agreed it is air worthy. That's my progress report I am confident I will soon be able to fly my own planes at the club I just have to get through the flying test and written exam to get my qualifications.
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Have ordered a VOLANTEX Phoenix 1600s glider kit
Neddy replied to Neddy's topic in All Things Model Flying
The standard motor that is supplied with the plane is 1400kv with a 12x6 inch prop. Running on 2s battery there have been complaints that this propeller is too big. With my 1800kv motor I am looking at either using a 9x6 or 10x6 size I do have a 2s battery which I can use . Any suggestions -
I have bought this glider in a kit form and expecting delivery in about a week. I have all the electronic components,leads , servos, ESC and motor. I have a PROPDRIVE 28-36 1800kv motor which I am hoping to use. I am wondering whether this motor might be too powerful. I want to use a 3s battery set up as I have a good number of these batteries. This plane was recommended to me and I have seen it regularly used as a slope soarer which appeals to me. Thinking about adding flaps or failing that flaperons. Any recommendations by other flyers appreciated thanks Ned
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Took plane out yesterday it operated properly. Changing transmitter and receiver has done the trick. Will not use the old gear again!