Hi Timbo, Many thanks for your suggestion, I am glad my packaged of goodies has the potential of being suitable for the Mini Max 4ch. trainer. I had not come accross this model before. It just so happens that your suggested web-site gave an interesting review of this model. The guy writing the review, had built and few his trainer from both land and water, he to used similar equipment with success. It looks unbreakable! Thanks Graham