O.K people, at this stage there is little hope of changing anything, but for what its worth, here's my three:- 1) Grumman Bearcat- 60"ish wingspan, with flaps and retracts powered with 6/8 Lipos and a big Axi. 2) AT6 Texan - Similar wingspan, retracts, for 6 Lipos and Axi. 3) Cosmic Wind Goodyear racer- 50"-60" wingspan for 6lipos and Axi. I do'nt think any of these are available from the usual plans services and would be a change from the current front runners for which plans abound. Cheers, George.