thanks to you both. i look forward to the intended new article, i like to experiment with balsa kits to see if i can convert to electric. i have joined the BMA and now need to find a club in the worcester area to learn to fly and get my A cert ( hopefully!) i hope i can acheive this with electric flight only. from last years plans i have built the 'Fizza' which looks really good. i havent flown it yet though as i realise i need 'airtime' on a trainer, hence the Flair Cub.