Hi Eric I am in no way saying that instructors are not good. At the end of the day they are volenteers and as such have offered there services and to help people get started. In effect you have become a teacher and as such they must treat it in that way by putting together a plan of how you are going to get somebody in the air. This must include going through the basics of flight , what the controls do and the subtilties of model flying. I agree they are volenteers but if you are not willing to give up flight time to teach future fliers don't volenteer, and if you do remember what it was like when you started. I am in no way saying that all instructors are like that buy any lengthes. It is only my experience and that is all I can coment on. When I was wanting to learn I found a lot of modelers fairly difficult to get any information on what I should be looking for etc. It would have been great if they took the time to explain what I should have been looking for. It was almost as if it was a closed society and unless You are in you are out. It would have been nice to have had that sort of advice in the beginning. Thank goodness for the internet where I found lots of info and made a choice on a plane which was great. Club life is great and fun sharing experiences, but make newbies welcome and take time to de tech your talk so they understand what you are on about. I take my hat off to all those people who instruct as it is not easy but nor is learning to fly.