john melia 1 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Just been reading david ashby's review of the msx-r . Ok good review , but I must say your opinion on club aerobatics is a bit misleading , I have seen the 50cc (fitted with a 60cc) petrol engine , perform outstanding 3d manoeuvres , flown by a very profficient pilot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 A 50cc engine in the same model John? Really? That would be crazy and over twice the size of the suggested engine - you'd need to strengthen the model to accommodate such an engine and that's way outside any review remit. Apologies if I've misunderstood you but the model reviewed is a freestyle aerobatic at best and certainly no bespoke 3d machine. Seagull don't make a bigger version of the model so I assume you're referring to something from another maker? Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 09/01/2015 17:43:31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Sorry David , if I was a bit confusing , its a 50cc size msx-r fitted with a 60cc engine , and its not a seagull , however it is exactly the same in all respects to the seagull only bigger . I'll get some video of it performing 3d with ease the next time he brings it out Edited By john melia 1 on 09/01/2015 17:56:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Are you talking about something like the the YT International, 50cc, built for 3D, model John? Why would you expect a completely different model to perform the same? I'm sure Mr A flew it and wrote exactly what he found. That's the point of a review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Ultra light build ? And I'm sure the seagull version will be built more or less exactly the same , I had the hobbyking version and it also was capable of 3d maneouvres. All I'm saying is the msx-r is definately capable of performing 3d , Martins is exactly the same as my hobbyking version , built exactly the same when compared , the only difference from mine to his is the amount of movement he has on the control surfaces . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 OK :- Hobbyking MSX-R - 1826mm, flying weight 4.0 - 4.5kg. 50cc Seagul MSX-R 1600mm flying weight 4.3kg. 15 - 20cc See any differences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 No my hobbyking msx-r is e50 sized chris , martins is 50cc sized fitted with a 60cc petrol engine , when the two of them are side by side the only difference is the size , ruddrr elevator and ailerons are exactly the same size scale wise Edited By john melia 1 on 09/01/2015 18:38:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Anway it is a very nice model , I would change the aluminum wingtube out for a carbon one as I've read a few reports on other forums about the quality of the tube , and some have landed with unexpected dihedral , I'm thinking of getting the 30cc sized one from hobbyking european warehouse if it doesnt exceed there shipping weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I have been looking at the Seagull one for a while now, a couple of guys at my club have them. Its about as big an aerobat as I can store and transport. Shame they have been discontinued... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Stuey theres a nice 30cc one on hobbyking , dunno if it would be too big for your needs , but I'm defo thinking of getting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Thanks for the heads up. Its a bit big tbh and my wife would not appreciate me stinking her car out with petrol fumes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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