john haz

Some interesting points made here, thanks guys.   In my limited time throwing models into the air (and onto the ground), I have learnt that a level chuck will always work better then a nose high "stall & fall". i never run with mine, just get myself braced comfortably & throw.   The larger (hawker / SU-34) models which are both EDF, i launch at 100% throttle to give them half a chance. The light parkjets are a different story, usually 50-60% throttle is plenty & still indices a touch of torque roll on some.   Easiest to launch is my little primejet 8, 17oz AUw, 350w & has a 3400kv motor spinning a 5x5 APC. This one will climb vertical a couple of seconds after launch, but is still capable of flying at walking pace - not bad for £4 worth of depron, a carbon rod & some cheap electronics.   Just completed a depron F-22, as seen in a thread coming very soon @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css); Hi guys,   Well, i'm back again. i have never actually been away but rarely post because I have settled with the models i have & had plenty of "input" to satisfy my craving for knowledge. Replying to questions seems pointless when others do the job so well & have far more experience than i do.   Hand Launching seems to be somewhat of a black art & a lot of people seem to have a lot of trouble with it ?? Dollys, bungie, etc seem to be the way to go, but at what size are the necessary ??   My two largest planes are both EDF & hand launch fine if there is a breath of wind, hopefully the specs below will give a few newbies an idea of what is possible (& fairly easy).   Lander hawker Hunter. 3.5lb AUW. 866mm wingspan. No retracts fitted. 6s setup producing about 850w through a lander motor/fan. Half flaps 7 a touch of wind this one leaves my hand with little more than a gentle push   Sukhoi Su-34. AUW 3lb exactly. Twin 64mm EDF running 2 x 4s 2650 lipos. produces 500w on each fan, no flaps, no retracts. This one is slightly harder to launch but with the help of a "launch buddy" it will climb from the off without sinking (pretty fast too on afterburner )   Does this mean that a 7lb AUW hunter with 1700w of power would launch ok ?? I guess not, presumably the power v span v weight curve isn't linear ???   Needless to say, a few of my depron (spit) parkjets with 24" span & 1lb AUW / 350w launch like homesick angels @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);Edited By john haz on 07/02/2012 21:34:50

Cheers James.   Let's hope Tim gets a good dealer, i am a real fan of lander models & if they can be sold at the prices OL were sellign them at, there's no competition !   Love that T-33, off to search google now to see what it's all about @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Tim,   are lander kits still available in the UK ?   I bought a hawker Hunter kit from overlander last year & it's awesome - fantastic build quality, fast & stable - but OL don't seem to have them now   I know Hobbyking are doing them (or maybe a copy) but with the kit cost + shipping it's more expensive than OL were.   Thanks   John @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Doh! all the time i spend on HK & I didn't realise they were selling lander kits.   thanks Tony   @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Hi Chaps   Does anybody know who is selling the lander range of jets now ??   I bought a hawker Hunter earlier this year & it's awesome (for a foamie ) quite fancy their panther or F-16 (maybe both) but overlander don't seem to be stocking them any more   Any links / hints appreciated ta @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Hi Shane,   that is a cracker ! I have downloaded quite a few of steve's plans & they are certainly good Very new to depron building myself, but I bought some part finished models & have had a lot of fun with a shumate SU-37 twin pusher.   About half way through a Saab Gripen build but just can't get the canopy looking right, might just fly it "as is" & see how it does.   Next project is going to be a raptor, i did start on a 75% size one but being my first build it was a bit too tricky (and small)   Keep posting mate, very interested in your builds   @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Hi chrissie & welcome from me too. Nice fleet of toys you have there !   Now where have I heard that name mentioned in the same line as a scooby ........ TRUCKNET ??? @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Yup, finless Bob's setup pages, none better   HERE @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Same for me today RW, site was very slow to respond & 3 times it refused to process the payment.   All sorted in the end but it was hard work, i guess they are very busy ? @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Well done a nice surprise for you !@import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Yet again i find myself needing some advice from those with more knowledge than myself   I need (quickly) a 6x4 standard, and a 6x4 pusher for my SU37. Anybody got a good supplier that sells "pairs" or at least makes it obvious what might work as a pair.   I can find pushers, I can find standard, but not sure what would make a "pair".   Also, a lot of APC seem to have the tiny hole in them - not ideal for me trying to mount them on a prop saver ...... or can I drill them out ?   Many thanks       and WHY I think I need them .....     I flew it yesterday and today & have just realised my problem with it is down to torque roll. I tend to turn fairly tight & then hit the power for fast passes & every time i do it, she drops a wing quite violently !! Thought it was me, but now pretty sure it's because i have two quite powerful motors with cheapo standard props. @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);

Hi Tom,   I see in another post you're a member of FMFC at Witcham ?   i was a member last year & spent many early mornings at the field learning to fly (crash) with my HZ Cub. I havn't rejoined this year (yet) because i have less time, it cost me a fortune in fuel to do a 25 mile round trip daily, and I have a little local club here with a 12 acre field   Some good guys at the club, especially Nick & Richard, always there to offer help & pretty relaxed, i might even join again later in the year if they don't lose the field ! @import url(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/CuteEditor_Files/Style/SyntaxHighlighter.css);@import url(/CuteEditor_Files/public_forums.css);