Depron Daz

Hi guys. Now that the build table is complete, I'm now ready to, er, build!!!! The only question is what? I have the Dawn Flyer to build but need to get some covering for the wings, but have no idea what would be best, Anyone?? What is the best servo size for the surfaces? However, the DF aside, I need to get back to what I like most, Depron. So, what do I build? There are two that I like; the Supermarine Swift, and the Hawker Hunter. It will be a pusher prop and the motor I'm looking at is one of my 4020/09's, which is fairly big lump, so I'm looking at a 1/4 scale model for either. It will probably need retracts, might be a bit big for hand launch Is there anyone on here that would be willing to vac form a canopy, or know where I could get one? Of course I'm willing to pay for it, just that I don't have the equipment. Your thoughts on my choices? Daz

The table is complete! Heavy stout frame with 6mm MDF top covered with Formica work surface, 5ft x 3ft. It is hinged to the shed wall and the front legs are hinged, so I can lift it up out the way and close the legs up. Also managed to get all of modelling equipment out of boxes and sorted out. Ready to build!

Depron stock ordered from Steve Webb, I've got some sheets here so I want to be cutting by Sunday Now to look at some drawings

Will it ever be hinged up? It'll probably be so full of bits that it won't Colin!

That's very kind of you John, I will PM you. Cheers fella!

As the title states, I will be building my build table this weekend in my workshop. I've already made some extra LED bright white strips to be directly above the table for extra "daylight" light rather than depend upon the 6ft strip lights in the roof. The LED lights work from a converted Xbox PSU and have a remote fob to turn the lights on and off utilising one of the 3 12v leads inside the old plug and one of the 3 negatives, leaving me with two of each so I can run something else if I need to, I wouldn't run a lipo charger from it as there are only 2 positives, but I have an old desktop also to convert for that. Got to go to B&Q tomorrow to get the table top cut to size, and some stock to make the legs and frame, but it will be hinged at the wall so I can lift it up out of the way if I need extra space etc. I cannot wait!

Can anyone help? The wife bought me the kit for the Dawn Flyer ages ago, but I have lost the plans. Can anyone help please? Daz Edited By Depron Daz on 18/03/2016 19:17:30

Dogging aliens lol I can, with hand on heart state that we weren't up to any shenanigans so the aliens would've been upset. Perhaps that's why when they saw my flashing lights they decided to turn right and head off towards another dogging site A ghost(?) story: For my wife's 50th, (not the same wife as the alien dogging event - she was finally abducted thankfully, but wife No.2) part of her surprise was a posh meal and a nights stay at Tylney Hall near Hook in Hampshire. It was the early hours of the morning when I definitely heard hard shoes on wooden floor walking past our door. I thought no more of it and fell asleep (hadn't been to sleep up to that point but the missus was), but in the morning I told the missus and she had a perturbed look upon her face, and said that she had also heard the foot steps during the night. When we came out of the room into the hallway, the carpet was full and deep, and springy underfoot. Even stamping on it didn't produce a footstep sound, just a dull thud. The footsteps I heard were definitely right outside our door. We were on the first floor so there were no rooms above us, and below was the carpeted dining room. We mentioned it to the concierge/reception when we checked out, and he didn't even bat an eyelid.

On mine I can control my heating and hot water when I'm hundreds of miles away, can even control certain plug sockets! GoPro control is brilliant. When my birds are breeding, I put the GoPro in the birdhouse and I can view whats going on from indoors and not keep disturbing them. I can also view my home CCTV, and go over recorded files from the hard drive. I can instantly watch what's recorded on my Transcend DrivePro 200 car cam via Bluetooth, I can real-time map my cycle rides via Strava and instantly (automatically) share it to the web. Always use my converter too. My best app is my medication app to remind me to take my tablets, nothing worse than saying "Did I take my tablets?" as once taken you open the app and tick each one off. Not like the old days when you always carried tuppence in your pocket in case you needed to phone home

Lol guys, we were both late teens, ended up getting married, but both were living with strict parents so no bedrooms allowed for courting! Just my trusty (not rusty) old Mk5 Cortina Definitely unidentified, and I am a big sceptic, so to think little green men with big eyes was way down the bottom of my list then, and still is now. As per Percy's comments, I tend to believe that more than aliens. The nearest airfield was North Weald, obviously no longer MOD property since WWII, but it probably would've been first spotted around that location if I've got my bearings correct (haven't lived in Essex for some time now). Just checked Maps, we would've been just West of Toot Hill, facing North, so North Weald airfield would be North West of us, and the object would first be seen about 2 miles North East of the airfield. Having come towards us, it would've passed the East side of the airfield totally before changing course and heading West towards Epping. IIRC, there were 2 or 3 residents that had contacted the local newspaper which my then colleague brought in. Things like this do intrigue me, and I agree that the possibility of aircraft owned by the governments (probably not ours lol) that may far exceed our beliefs, and may only be considered to belong to far superior minds of a race unlike ours (rules out the Americans then ) may actually exist, as I cannot believe that we still only have simple solid rockets to propel us out of the atmosphere. Just had a thought, wasn't Doc Emmet Brown and Marty McFly around in the late 80's too?

Posted by extra slim on 17/03/2016 13:39:01: Yummm I properly spat my tea out with this, you bad boy Years ago, late 80's I was with my then girlfriend parked up in a field near Ongar in Essex, would've been around 23:00 hours, when we saw a light darting about the clear cloudless skies ahead of us. I would estimate about 5 miles ahead towards the North. It done this for a couple of minutes, covering about 1-2 miles every time it darted. It then started to come towards where we were. I started to flash my car main beams as we were facing directly towards it. It got about half a mile in front of us slowly and stopped. I got out and it was dead silent, not a sound. The light then turned towards my left as I faced it, so it's right, and it started moving away, towards the west, north west. I began following it in the car, but I couldn't make out any shape. I managed to keep up for about a mile as it was wasn't going fast at all, but our headings were converging. I had the window down and at its closest point was probably 200-300 metres, but still no sound, and then it just vanished. Didn't appear to shoot upward or away, but the light just vanished. I stopped quickly and got out, turned my lights off, but the night was still, dead still, cloudless and just stars. Whatever it was it was gone. I never reported it officially for fear of ridicule, but told a work colleague who lived in that area (Epping) and a week later he brought in his local newspaper, and other people had also seen it that same night, describing the same actions of movements etc, with no sound, just the light. We didn't have camera phones then so I have no photographic proof, but now as a serving police officer of 20 years service, I stand by my evidence of what I saw that night.

Yep, ugly! So long as it works

Thanks Pat, I think I should be ok with 280 watts. I'll keep the smaller 250 watt one as a back up just in case.

Posted by iqon on 12/03/2016 22:22:59: I would have thought you would have had an answer on exactly what you would get.... So yes it will work, but dont ask me how good.......I am guessing at upto 4s at 1c...... Thanks for your reply. I was hoping that there would be someone who can crunch the numbers to give me a fairly accurate figure.

Wow this is definitely going on my bucket list for me, not sure the wife would like flying as she hates going on planes, perhaps it's different I don't know. out of curiosity how much did it cost?

Cheers AJ. I've just had another look at both PSU's, one is 250watts and the other is 280watts, although the 280 label says 12v+ at 16 amps, so the amperage sounds good but the watts seem fairly low. Will it still be good for a bench top power supply to run an IMAX B6? I will utilise the 5v+ for servo testing. Thanks again

Thanks John. One last question, what would you use -5v or -12v for? This has me stumped

Thanks guys, some good links there too. The large PSU shown in the link will still need opening up and all the sockets adding though surely?

Wowsers, looking good Colin, a lot of work there, well done!​ ​

Whilst sorting out my workshop I found 2 desktop computers that we no longer use. I stripped them out of hard drives, heatsinks, fans and chips etc, and I also removed the PSU's. I've heard of people using these to power chargers indoors, and one of my chargers, an Imax B6 no longer accepts power from the 240v lead, so I have to use a variable voltage computer transformer on the 12v DC input. Yes I did check the fuse in the plug and for continuity on the lead, so it must be something inside the charger that has failed. Does anyone else use one, and are they easy to convert for our use?   Edited By Depron Daz on 11/03/2016 00:19:13

I'm watching, nice little fleet there, and very practical for small spaces or when away on holiday. I love taking my 36" foam spitfire away in the caravan with us so I can go fly in the adjacent field in the balmy summer evenings

Posted by Dave Hopkin on 10/03/2016 21:54:20: 98" JU-88 since you have two motors.... **LINK** Hi Dave. Very similar to my Blenheim, albeit twice the size almost. I think I'll stick with a single motor, then I can build another one after Edited By Depron Daz on 10/03/2016 23:41:00

Hi Roy, Thanks for the welcome my friend. I finally managed to catch up on all your recent builds and those of your friends at the shop and field, and may I say, that is one BIG fleet that you have between you! You may wonder why I've become interested in modelling again after (possibly?) seeing me sell most of my fleet on the BMFA Facebook site these last few weeks? Well I was yet again in a bad place a few weeks back, more shocks and the following anxiety, and felt that I would never be able or even want to, stand over the field and fly for fear of more shocks. Well I've decided that I don't want to be beaten and will try and carry on as best as possible and enjoy myself, and one way I did enjoy myself was building models. So a little bit of rain from God has made me need to move my fishing gear inside, thus creating enough space in the shed for fairly decent table. Enough of that! Moving on........ If I build a twin, then I haven't got another motor for ANOTHER build, yeah, catch my drift??? No I'll stick with a single, fairly straightforward build to start back. I think I've forgotten most of it anyway. I'm definitely in for a second world war fighter. ME109 - No, Spitfire - No, Hurricane - Possibly, FW109D9 - Odds on favourite at the mo, Anything Italian - No (sorry), The Japanese one that was mentioned previously - Good possibility, don't see too many Jap planes at the field (if any!!!) Anything American - No, just sold my Mustang. What else is there.......? I want 84 or 96" W/S, and although I'll be using depron, at that W/S I'm thinking a balsa/depron sandwich wing spar will be needed for sure especially with retracts. That reminds me, can you PM me a price on electric retracts if you stock them please? I do have some big mechanicals in my 65" Spitfire kit, that's a possibility. I'll do as you say regarding the canopy, didn't think of that, although the FW190D9 seems fairly simple to build in pieces with an ali frame. Toying with the idea of a retractable canopy as well, with a full bodied pilot moving the sticks/rudder/throttle in time with the Tx movements ( and I said I wanted an easy build!) That should get the grey cells working. Moving head with built in camera (not FPV)???? Where will it stop! Do you think 5kg is too much AUW, might have over estimated. Anyways, whatever I do decide to do, I will start a new thread/blog whatever, and may call upon you to refresh my memory in certain areas, if you don't mind? Best regards buddy.

Thanks Dave, not sure if it's my cup of tea TBH, without being disrespectful to any builders, we all have our likes/dislikes. It would be easy to build without a doubt, but if I'm going big, I'd like it to be a well recognised plane. Thanks anyway.

Posted by McG 6969 on 10/03/2016 08:30:41: Hi Daz, ... what about not having a warbird this time... ... and for the sake of changes, having a go at the Mass build with a 150% (or more) Ballerina... ... and I could even 'copycat' your Depron wing building method for my standard size Bella Ballerina. Great anyway to read that you are back at the building board. Take care. Hakuna matata Chris BRU - BE / CTR Building Board Control Edited By McG 6969 on 10/03/2016 08:31:37 Hi Chris. I'm not at the building board just yet, but definitely itching to. Not sure I like the Ballerina, will need to see some more photos first. I've figured that by sorting out a cupboard full of toot in the house could be the new home for all of my fishing gear. The cupboard is an 8x5 area with a sloping ceiling off the bathroom in the loft conversion. It is fully plaster boarded and plastered, and was used by the previous owner as a wardrobe, but seeing as I've built large wardrobes in our bedroom, it was just filled with toot. I can get all of my gear in there no trouble, including my 15 or so rods! This will free up a big area in the shed for a swing down building table. In our old house I used to have a 12x10 spare bedroom, totally empty, and all mine! I was spoilt a bit, now i'll be resigned to a draughty cold shed lol! I was discussing it briefly with the missus last night, and I could feel myself becoming happy and cheerful, haven't felt like that for a long while