Jason-I

Posted by Nigel Heather on 09/11/2019 10:13:22:   .....To own a ‘drone’ you must have an Operator ID. So it should be a mandatory requirement to present it when purchasing a drone - just like you have to do when purchasing a car..... Nigel I have seen this a few times now. You do not need a license to buy a car! You only need a license if you intend to drive said car home. You should not need an operator license to buy a drone. That is ridiculous. You may be buying the drone as a present for somebody else. You may be buying the drone to use exclusively indoors. You may be buying the drone as a static display model. You may be buying the drone for spare parts. Lots of reasons why you could be buying the drone without needing a operator ID.   EDIT: The law does not say that you need an operator ID to own a drone. It says the following: 'The new regulations apply to drones and model aircraft from 250g to 20kg that are used outdoors' Key words being used AND outdoors   Edited By Jason-I on 09/11/2019 11:29:30

Posted by john stones 1 on 08/11/2019 21:54:25: What if someone who knows you, goes rogue and uses your details on the INSIDE of their drone to commit a crime ? it's a jungle out there, can't be too careful you know. Your right. Nothing for it but to jack it all in and flog all my models.....

Posted by john stones 1 on 08/11/2019 21:30:46: Posted by Jason-I on 08/11/2019 21:24:41: The registration number is so they can track us down if we carry out criminal activities with our model aircraft. Why would anybody want to put that number anywhere on constant view such that real criminals can copy the number and then use it on their own gatwick attack drones? Anyway, I've already cut out the middle man. Instead of using a dumb number that the police have to look up on a database to find out who it belong to, I've just written my name and phone number on the inside of all my models.. Who would have thought such a simple solution exists. If someone knows you and your address/phone number, they could use your details when committing a crime. Hence the reason it's on the INSIDE!

Just had a brainwave. Why not scrap the whole operator registration system, and just make a law that states: "all UAV's should have the owners name and contact details on them" No need for an overpriced CAA database of names and contact details then. No need for a dedicated CAA call handling team so the police can relate an operator number to an actual person. No need for a drones reunited hotline. All the information the police could possibly need would be right there printed on the model!

The registration number is so they can track us down if we carry out criminal activities with our model aircraft. Why would anybody want to put that number anywhere on constant view such that real criminals can copy the number and then use it on their own gatwick attack drones? Anyway, I've already cut out the middle man. Instead of using a dumb number that the police have to look up on a database to find out who it belong to, I've just written my name and phone number on the inside of all my models.. Who would have thought such a simple solution exists.

And if you haven't, you still need to take the test. No change for me....

I see no concessions for us country members. I'm still supposed to register as an operator and pay the fee, and I'm still supposed to pass the test. The only real difference is that that we are now saving a couple of quid. BMFA members or not, we are all still part of 'the problem'. ie using what they hope will be valuable airspace.

Posted by Dickw on 06/11/2019 16:53:28 You have to be registered as an Operator and you can do that either direct with the CAA or via the BMFA at renewal. Not everybody had to be registered as an operator....

Posted by Philip Lewis 3 on 05/11/2019 19:48:21: I must say whilst registering an (organisation) as an operator I didn't know whether to laugh or cry as I imagined the person responsible (as they call it) at Amazon et al laughing when considering the thousand or so drones they intend to put in the air being told they only need to pay a paltry mere £9.00 for the whole lot! And what happened to the aim of taxing properly multinational corporations? This is one of the fundamental issues I have with this scheme. It is a question I have raised with the DfT countless times and has never been answered. Also one of the reasons why I will only be registering as a pilot.

In addition to my post above, Vere also does not expect the police to prosecute children flying rubber band powered aeroplanes within flight restriction zones - even thoug this is contrary to CAA regulations. Apparently the police will apply the laws sensibly.

Posted by Martin Harris on 05/11/2019 14:23:56: I think the Captain's point is that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to be sure you are complying with all aspects of the new legislation in all cases. I think the rozzers will be in the same boat - impossible for them to know and keep up with all the ins and outs of the regulations. According to one of my replies from the instigator of this rotten legislation (Vere), the police will ''interperit the law sensibly". It was however my understanding that the law is the law and is not subject to interperitation. Just shows how stupi.. sorry, out of touch she is!

If your boiler is that old, it is likely only 60% efficient at best. Modern boilers are more like 90% efficient. The savings this will make on your gas bill are significant and will help offset the replacement cost. You may also qualify for an ECO grant towards the cost.....

Posted by Peter Christy on 02/11/2019 16:59:49: More to the point for many of us, where are the engines under .40ci (6.55cc)? For decades, engines in the .15 to .40ci (2.5cc to 6.5cc) were the cornerstone of club flying! Nowadays, aside from classified ads and ebay, these engines are just about extinct! PAW still produce diesels in this class, but where are the glows? How are people meant to learn how to master ic engines without the "beginners / club" size motors? Or am I just being a sad old - er - person? -- Pete OS still sell a 0.15, a 0.35 and a 0.46.....

Seems to me like they have left MRC and are now doing independent videos. I have the feeling this occurred at about the same time as Stuart Warne left Hobbyking and went to MRC.

Posted by rcaddict on 02/11/2019 10:11:47: yeah i can prop it down and the esc would be ok my worry is if the motor could handle the voltage, i would not need full throttle Edited By rcaddict on 02/11/2019 10:12:32 Voltage is unimportant. It's the max current that matters. Also, don't forget that the throttle controls the voltage - hence limiting the throttle would limit the voltage. Edited By Jason-I on 02/11/2019 10:17:14

Others more knowledgeable may give you a better answer, but I would say it is possible, by several methods. 1) Using existing prop, limit throttle travel on 5s so that you do not exceed 4s rpm and current draw values. OR 2) Re-prop accordingly so that you do not exceed maximum current rating of motor and ESC.   3) I am no expert. Wait for others to comment. Edit: Dick beat me to it. Edited By Jason-I on 02/11/2019 10:12:46

Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 29/10/2019 14:02:16:   BMFA members ARE exempt from registering as an operator until 31 January 2020 according to the CAA page linked in Nigel Heather's post made at 12.50. This is to harmonise payment of the £9 fee to payment of BMFA subs. I think I wrote exactly that in my post that you quoted. It would be great if you stopped repeating your spiel about rotten legislation and on and on. Its here, we knew it was coming, it could have been worse and it won't prevent anyone who wants to fly from flying. Edited By Alan Gorham_ on 29/10/2019 14:02:58 BMFA members are NOT exempt. They have a short stay of execution granted, but they are not exempt (I was just correcting the facts - to much incorrect information flying around) This is rotten legislation. It's here, I agree, but it's still rotten! Edited By Jason-I on 29/10/2019 15:47:17

Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 29/10/2019 13:28:01: The BMFA and other model flying associations members have been granted an exemption from registering as an operator and can opt to pay the £9 registration fee to their association along with their association membership fee in January 2020. BMFA members are NOT exempt from operator registration. The BMFA will be registering members on their behalf (if the member consents). i.e. the BMFA is merely acting as unpaid tax collector. The BMFA will pass your details to the CAA/DfT for entry into their registration system - along with the £9 fee. If you choose not to allow the BMFA to register on your behalf, then you will have to register directly yourself. (if you choose to comply with this rotten legislation that is).

Also rc world www.rcworld.co.uk

Posted by Wingman on 26/10/2019 12:07:45: Can't see the point in a throttle cut (or inhibit switch) as it's just something else to get wrong - which way is off and on? - but I suppose if it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling then that is OK. If you just place the throttle stick at half way when connecting the battery then the esc won't activate and the motor won't start until you return the stick to zero and then move it up again - note: that is two movements to activate - difficult to do accidentally!. Works on any transmitter old or new, needs no programming and is highly visible. What safety procedure do you then use after flight to prevent accidental throttle activation whilst removing the flight battery?

I ALWAYS use a kill switch, however, my view is that a kill switch should be made an industry standard. Even basic cheap 4ch radios should have a kill switch fitted. This would only cost pennies extra on the radio.

Posted by Andy Symons - BMFA on 25/10/2019 23:05:01: The new regs are nothing to worry about, the smallest of hurdles to participation. Somewhat concerning that the new regs have not even come into force yet, but are already putting people off the hobby.

Posted by Steve J on 24/10/2019 21:37:59: Posted by CARPERFECT on 24/10/2019 20:19:00: DOES that all sound correct ? Can you come up with a plausible argument that either you or your son 'have management of' all 15 planes? Does one of you determine when, where and by whom the models are flown? Nonsense. Dad is the operator and a pilot. The son is just a remote pilot. All planes carry an operator number. This fully complies with the letter and spirit of the law. How complicated do you want to make it? Edited By Jason-I on 24/10/2019 23:42:32

Posted by CARPERFECT on 24/10/2019 20:19:00: So here`s a little conundrum for you all. Two BMFA members in my house. Me and my 24 year old son. WE. yes WE have 15 planes and we share them all. I have an A cert he has not. So come 1st Jan 2020 we will both pay the BMFA subs. I or him will register . Just the one £9 NOT TWO. He will have to pass his A cert or do the online (impossible to fail test). If either of us are ever questioned by the DRONE police.,We are covered. the models will have a reg number, and both will have passed the A test or the CAA test. DOES that all sound correct ? Absolutely correct. One registered operator with two registered pilots. Edited By Jason-I on 24/10/2019 21:15:49

Have to agree with this guy....