Lunch-time flyer

Interesting the mention of 35C discharge - I’m just replacing a few Power-Tech 2250mAh 33C 3S 11.1V Li-Po Batteries which have puffed up, and I was thinking of getting a higher discharge rate to get more life out of them, I don’t feel I run them that hard but they haven’t lasted... most brands seem to stick to 30C so is anyone else finding the same problem? Do you think a better brand at 30C would give better (safer) results? I have no issue with the power, I’d just prefer flat batteries

Hi all, found a good deal on this model, anyone flying it? https://www.centuryuk.com/RC-Planes/3D-Aerobatic/Tech-One-Sbach

Just enjoyed catching up this thread, I've a flamewheel 450 and looking for a smaller racer - wondering whether to build from scratch or just buy off the shelf, don't think I'll be making my own frame but hat's off to FF

Very interesting post, I am guessing by the number of people who've read this and the relative few that have commented that there are lots of people in this situation, I think the nano's (and mCPX for me) have given a lot of us an entry to the heli world at an affordable price and now need somewhere to move onto, it's certainly true for me. I'm tempted by a Trex 450, although I have seen a cheap Century 500 but I'm a bit worried it's too old (spares, flybar etc) - and no-one talks about them so also worry for the help side - but it's nice and big

not really as the motor wasn't man enough for the job even at full tilt - I was after suggestions of power setups or coments to give up on it... don't want to buy a new motor for no return, but if someone's got a good idea os the scale of setup I'll need it might be worth considering - and as I said I want to add weight too...!

I do have a watt meter but I didn't use it It's the same setup taken from a lighter glider I have, so I thought it would be OK (same prop etc) - the real problem was I ran it full speed nearly all the time...!!! As opposed to short bursts.... doh!

that's encouraging...

hmmm don't do petrol, but it was smoking a bit from the initial flight

I've just dug out a 30 year old phase 6 from the attic... stuck a motor in it to see what happened... one flight later and a burnt our ESC says I didn't have a big enough motoe set-up... My question is: is this worth converting to electric power? It's heavy already... so any addition has to be very powerfull to make it worth the effort... and eventually I want it to hold a camer too so there's more wieght there... So ideas for a set-up - or just leave it - it ain't worth it ! Wingspan 66inches wing area 540 sq in. wing loading 11oz/sqft weight 42oz http://www.chrisfoss.co.uk/#/phase-6/4538950472 Thanks

To be honest I didn't take the throws, just the C of G, and now it's all ready the weather has changed for the worst! Edited By Lunch-time flyer on 13/02/2015 09:58:27

Posted by Vic. P. on 19/09/2009 09:42:03: Hi John, I still have the original Chris Foss instructions for my Phase 6 The C of G is 4 1/2" back from the leading edge at the fuse. (The wing chord is 9 5/8" at the centre line)   The stated throws are: Ailerons 5/16" - 7/16" up and down at T.E. Elevator 3/16" - 5/16" up and down at T.E. Rudder 1 1/2" left and right at widest point. (bottom)     Kind regards Vic.   Edited By Vic Parsons on 19/09/2009 09:51:14 Edited By Vic Parsons on 19/09/2009 09:55:04   Hi Vic, I know this is from a long time ago but I've just got my phase 6 out of my parents atic after 30 years...!!! it's all set up now - just waiting to maiden it (again). Just wantd to say Thanks for the instructions - I wouldn't have set the C of G so far back without them and would've ended up with loads of weight in the nose and this is not a light glider to start with! Thanks very much. Edited By Lunch-time flyer on 13/02/2015 08:19:52 Edited By Lunch-time flyer on 13/02/2015 08:20:27

I must admit to another satisfying if cruel feeling of a truely fantastic crash, I had a wing which I kept loading with ever faster motor and battery set-up only to find one day coming out of a dive it just folded in half and everything floated to the ground! I was the only thing in the air and the sound of full on motor to utter silence as battery went one way and motor the other was all part of the experience!! Glued it back together, added a carbon rod within the profile, spray job and off again! Lost the battery though, just couldn't find it anywhere, managed to get everything else I do have models that would bring a tear to the eye if (when?) they were damaged in any way... it's just that a good crash after really throwing them around is OK too!

I know EXACTLY how you feel, I've just started with heli's and bought 2 blade micro 'copters as they are cheap to learn on (ie cheap to fix) - trouble is I like to fly outside and they get small real quick.... Cut a long story short - lost the nano last Monday, it just got away from me in some wind and I couldn't tell which way it was flying... So I cut the motor and just walked to pick it up..didn't quite see it land... Can't find it anywhere - searched all week... Gutted. Much worse than crashing. Worse thing is I know if I found it its just a new battery and off we go... nightmare! Cant decide whether to give up and go back to big fixed wings, save up for a bigger heli, replace the nano... Or just go to the top of the hill and shout! the shouting is winning so far...

Ok it sounds like the Spectrum Radio and sticking with a blade is the way to go, and the trannie only is not a hideous cost - as I want to get a 450 size eventually would you stay on the DX6 or go a bit further for the DX7? I can't stretch to an 8 but a 7 would be dooable if it's worth it. The only reason I could think of was the telemetry of battery life... very useful I'd have thought... I don't want to have to buy another radio next year! By the way Phil that blade 450 is rediculously cheap! I'm guessing it's still better to stay small just for repair costs, but thanks for the lead!

KLM?

I'm about to start learing the art of Heli's and have been looking at the Blade Nano and mCPX BL. But this means buying a new transmitter as I only have Futaba - is it worth the new outlay or are there other heli's as good as the Blades... ? I know I could use a pluging for the futaba but I've not found good reports of them and I'd rather put the cost towards the price of a radio... Happy with the choice of a fairly difficult first model (don't want fixed pitch) and looking for smaller cheaper crashes! Flying outside ong grass.

Hi there, just found this thread as I was looking to buy a POWER-TECH B606 CHARGER and wanted to know if anyone had any comments - you sound fairly happy with it. I'll have to get the additional adapter board and then another I expect to cover all the different types so thanks for the link. I was surprised to read that you plug the power and the balancer into the unit - my current 12 volt charger charges through the balancer lead OR the + - leads but not both - have I got that right? Anything else to add with regards my choice?

Well I'm amazed by the responses, I can understand the possibilities of making a noisy set-up, and cheap motors, but what I've got used to as quiet compared to an IC engine has been completely re-written by the outrunner that's far from small and powering my Spitfire at the moment, it just purrs through the sky and can hardly be heard, which called into question the other 8-odd motors I've had before, and the reason for the initial post.  I jut thought it was an outrunner thing! 

What's the quietest type of electric motor? I thought they were all the same until I bought my first outrunner and found it fantastically quiet - are all outrunners quiet? Are there other quiet motors?? 

great, thanks.

What's your thoughts on the nylon bolt to fasten the wing?? - I had a slightly harder landing than anticipated and was very pleased with a sheared off bolt and no damage... but looking for a replacement I see that many people don't like them at all following catastrophic failures in flight... I can't see the wing getting that much of a shear force in flight myself... Anyone any experience of problems or otherwise with the bolt?

Following on from my balancing issues....  I didn't want to put in a larger battery, so I re-jigged the motor mount to get the battery right up into the nose, put some re-enforcing into the nose cone which had been showing some wear and tear, and balanced it spot on... still have to weigh the finished product, but took it our for a test flight and it was fantastic! Never flown anything so solid, looks fantastic too. unbeleivable! Thanks for starting the posts, without this I would still have it sitting on the shelf! Now I can't wait to get out there again!! 

Having read this thread with great interest I've re-fitted my spitfire,I used to fly it unsuccessfully on old brushed motor and horrible heavy batteries, so thought I'd re-work it with the new stuff I have in other models...  However...  I'm no-where near the weight, (983g or 2lb 2.7oz) and can't balance on a CofG 75mm back from the leading edge... have to add 100g up front...??  From everything I've read here lighter is better, but it's got to balance... my set up is very similar to those here - out-runner, 35amp SC, 2500 LiPo, so if anything quite heavy up front... Has anyone any tips on lightening the tail (so saving the extra 100g in the nose)? I can't see how I can be so far out everyone else...   Or should I just add the weight?

I think this one's got my name on it, in small type, on the top of the box.

go on go on go on, go on