neil martin 1

Hi, it's a tony nijhuis 1/10th scale beaufighter.

Is there a general view of the most successful method to set up a small twin electric, specifically concerning thrust angles or using counter rotating props? I am building a model that will require 25-30 size electric motors and the plan shows 2 degrees required on the right motor/engine only. If I were to use a counter rotating prop, will it make the angle redundant? What about down thrust? This is my first twin so would be good to get a view from the wider community. Many thanks

Thanks for the feedback. Once the washout has been built in, holding the aileron in place using pins in the sub spars as you have mentioned makes sense. The plane is a Tony Nijhuis Beaufighter. There are a few threads on this forum of previous builds which are very detailed and extremely helpful too.

Thanks for the replies. I think I will cut out the aileron later as Allan recommended, looks a good way to do it accurately. Do you clamp the aileron in place to get the correct aileron rib incidence?

I want to add washout to a wing and the instructions specify a 1/4" tapered piece under the ribs (note the plural) at the tip end of the wing. This is fine and I understand the reasoning here, however the aileron begins at the second rib in from the tip and the rib is therefore in two sections so to speak. In order to build the washout into the second rib, id be interested to learn of how you experienced guys are managing this. My thoughts are that if I lift the trailing end of the first rib at the tip by 1/4" as instructed and then measure the gap that is produced between the bottom of the rib and the bench at the same position in-line of where the second rib ends (before the aileron), id pack the second rib up by the same amount less the difference to the first rib? Being as the second rib is bigger. Ive also seen pictures of wings completely built with washout in and then the aileron cut out after skinning. Id be interested to learn of how this is achieved. I hope this makes sense

Did this ever get finished? What an amazing thread.

Looks like someone has got it nailed.....landings look good. COG is 110mm and he's taken half an inch off of the length of the gear https://youtu.be/0KoTlzU27-8

The model is the 68" Miles Magister by Dennis Bryant (Sarik Hobbies)

Thank you...all advice welcome. Peter I have sent you a PM

Does anybody have a link to the "woodn't you like to know" information in the subscriber forum or any similar resource for advice? This is in reference to the choice of wood and appropriate grades when plans do not detail what is required for each part of the aircraft. This request comes from a total build newbie that does not have this info in the plan. I have balsa and ply parts in the kit but would like advice regarding wing spars, braces and engine bearers. Thanks

Any update Chris, did she maiden? What was COG set at? Mine is all set to go...so maybe the weekend if weather remains good. CoG is set at 130mm and elevator rates reduced to 8mm. AUW is 18 1/2 lb

Yes I suppose its somewhere in the middle when considering the general consensus. I have a fairly heavy petrol engine in mine and have been aiming for 120mm, so I am probably already at 130mm now as I was intending to add some nose weight. Similar to yourself I am waiting for better weather and a mowed strip before taking the plunge! Good luck on the maiden, try to get someone to film it as there's barely any videos of this plane flying!

Chris - has this hurricane maidened yet? How was it? Im due to maiden mine soon and keen to know your opinion on CoG. As you said, there seems to be a difference of opinions, some other online groups swear by 120mm, some others say as per manual.

What happened to this thread, how did the maiden go? Plane looked great. I am considering one of these and would be grateful to get some overall feedback on the kit and the power system used?

Just viewed their website, the kits look good the online feedback seems to be fairly positive. Shame that they are showing no stock of most of their range but Ill make some enquiries.

Whoa..what a fantastic level of feedback, thank you all so much! Been offline for a couple of days for obvious reasons! Having a couple of young children doesn't give me a great deal of time at the workbench (need to factor this into my choice of kit too) so time at the bench is a precious commodity for me. I am really pleased that this thread has had a great level of input for others in a similar but rare situation, being those that can fly but not yet build. Again... I really appreciate all of your comments. Just to answer a few questions that have appeared and a couple of other points to raise: In answer to a question about the size of model I would like to build, for starting out I am thinking of a low wing aircraft of 40-60 size being glow or electric (no preference there). This is partly due to limited space in the garage (kid's bikes, wife's junk!... ), cant wait to eventually move house and have my own workshop one day, but that's another story! I currently fly a range of aircraft from the smallest ......SIG Smith Miniplane (built by a clubmate) that I overhauled with new Solartex, Paint and an ASP52, right up to the largest size in the fleet a Sebart Miss Wind and a 35cc Petrol Hurricane (Seagull) which I am hoping to maiden this spring when the weather gets better. I would like to start with a laser cut kit, avoiding the need to cut out all of the ribs and formers at this early stage. I have a large flat bench in the garage to build on, but will need to invest in some tooling, Jigs and accessories. A friend at my flying club has built a Gangster 63 and he thoroughly recommends them, so that is certainly one to consider. It just needs to be able to teach me the basic essentials before moving onto the more tricky stuff like wing washout that Ill hopefully address on a 2nd or 3rd model. Relating back to my original question, I have a keen interest in Warbirds so I was hoping that there may be a sport style Kit that is stand-off scale and doesn't require all of the tricky aspects associated with scale warbirds that have been highlighted in this thread. Is it fair to say that the Cambrian and Fun Fighter range would fall into this category? Last point to raise which has been mentioned a few times is concerning choice of wood. I've sometimes watched guys in the SLEC tent at the shows, religiously inspecting their balsa before making a purchase and can totally understand why this is important. With the demise of model shops across the country, how do modellers overcome this requirement, when ordering online is the most obvious method of making a purchase? Or, is it the case that the choice of supplier is such that they can be trusted to send something of good quality and specific to requirements? Obviously at some point I am going to want to procure materials and am interested to know how you guys manage this? Thanks again all.

Have an engineering background and created technical drawings so I'm not totally out of my depth! Merry Christmas 👍

Thanks Don. Product of modern times...ive cut my teeth on foamies and artf's and have regretted not building earlier! Suppose I just need to get one done and learn from there. I've done countless repair projects so that helps but now need to progress to a full build.

Thank you all for the feedback. I understand the complex issues thqt are faced with warbird build so would like to have this exposure to be able to learn them...but maybe for a second or third build. Do the topflite kits require a good level of experience in this regard? Maybe a low wing sports model is the way to go for first build. Would be looking for something I could complete fairly quickly and gain valuable knowledge at the same time

Looking for some advice. Ive been flying over 10 years and would consider myself a competent pilot (B Level) but have never built anything. Im always in awe of the aircraft on the showline at the Nationals and other events I visit and would ultimately love to produce something of that scale in years to come. After some research, I can see that my question has been answered many times. I suppose im looking for some modern UK opinions as lots of rcgroups/universe appear from google searches. If there are any links available to this subject then Id be grateful if you could send them. What is a good beginner warbird kit for a total newbie? I understand that I should maybe start with a high wing trainer of some type, but my flying skills are passed that and it is ultimately a warbird that will drive me on to produce the end result as I have a keen interest in them. Thanks in advance.

Wish there were more videos to view of the hurricane flying. Surprised by the minimal amount of reports on this plane since it's release.

Thank you for the maiden report....some good points to note. What was the AUW?

Looks really nice Tim. I've got my cooling going through the bulkhead and coming out of the retract wells. Having looked at yours I can see that your fuel tank would obstruct this.

Wheel brackets look good, will make some for mine. Do the wheels miss the brackets once the Oleo's are fully compressed? On rcgroups "seagull hurricane" page, a guy says that when the Oleos compress, the wheels can hit the gear which causes a nose over. He stated that he had to angle his gear forward to also help, I have already added a 1/8th piece of packing, hope that will be enough.

Like the cockpit, the dials look so much better than I expected. I have epoxied the oil cooler in place, it is pretty sturdy on there and can only see if being damaged if the gear doesn't come down and a belly land is required. Fingers crossed that doesn't happen! I also used large zip ties to secure the gear doors, although they seem to twist and I expect they will turn when the wind gets to them in flight. Need to lock their position somehow, but not thought of that solution yet.