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Built light it should be ideal for EDP, especially as a relatively slow observation plane, FPV ? I once considering a scratch built one using an old helicopter bubble canopy. Ray. (my avatar is a twin EDP, 6" props)

Quite probably. It was just the once as the ponds are too close to the A465 for me, (too risky). This - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6j06opQtp4 Note she took off well before full throttle. Ray

For a sandable primer I usually add talcum powder to matt emulsion type paint (ceiling paint) as a lightweight filler, sometime even add water if the emulsion paint seems a bit thick. Ray.

Sorry Murat, but I rarely use the Model Flying forum for model builds, so no real detail available here, the build (2012), is on another model site but I'm not keen on posting links to other forum sites, seems unfair. Could PM link you though, once I find how. Ray.

The word 'hybrid' caught my eye, (Ok, so I drive Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid). If by model hybrid you mean balsa and foam ?, then I suppose my 72" Spitfire could be thought a hybrid also. It is based on a free Tony Nijhuis Spitfire plan that was given away in a RCM&E mag 2012. The plan quoted around 15lbs with a 120 four-stroke - now that to an electickery junky was a red flag to a bull. So my balsa and Depron foam version build came out at half that, actually 7lbs -2oz flying, includes 6s Lipo (1lb 9oz), retracts. Ray. Apologies if this is a bit off-topic.

I hope you don't mind me showing my Sunderland. She's 90" span, scratch built using mostly Depron foam, built and first flow back in 2010, (and I still have have it) with some balsa where I thought it required. Has flown off water, but mostly off fairly short grass. Owing to the size, the wings are split into three parts. A center section with the motors, and two plug in outer panels. The Sunderland was a beautiful aircraft. Ray. (Swansea)

A tethered glider (kite ?), did it a few times back in my single channel days when using a nylon line and rubber bungee, (flat 1/24th rubber strip). Once the model gets high enough to get into the stronger winds and higher AoA, (kiting)there was no way to get off the line with just rudder control. As we were using a tethered line, someone had to run to the peg and release the bungee to let the rubber 'relax' and come off the hook. Those flat rubber strips, ( about 20 yards of ex-rubber job motors, hate to thing how long it stretched to), used to make one hell of a noise as the wind vibrated the twists in the rubber as they stretched. It was still great fun, but then the low technology of early RC often was. Ray.

The original Depron had what some (including myself) referred to as a 'grain' effect, in the same way balsa sheet does, it will flex or roll easier one way across the sheet than the other. Other foams currently sold as Depron, that will bend either way the same, as far as I am concerned, are not 'true' Depron, but can still be used. I have been scratch building with the true Depron for well over 15 years, it was a brilliant material. Ray.

Hi Paul Assuming you like electric power --- Try a search on the Polaris Seaplane Parkflier, there are a few similar styles out there, one commercial model is the Northstar. It's easier to build, simple, has the motor on the fin, so can take-off and land on water, grass, snow etc. I built one, great fun. Ray.

150 W/lb ??? O.k. so it's not fast, but at least I can see what's flying by not looking for a coloured streak. And it's flying on less than 60 W/lb, not every jet has to be a amps eater. ? Ray .

Copy and paste worked. Ray.

Seeing if I can add a YT video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqDJnCiYDV4

Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 26/01/2021 17:32:40: Posted by Erfolg on 26/01/2021 17:18:20: What seems to being ignored is that young people, however defined, are not being attracted into the hobby. IMO we need to ensure that as many currently modellers continue to do so. I see the CAA regs as a serious obstacle to attracting and keeping modelers, the hobby needs to limit the impact as best we can. The hobby needs to resist, as best we can, mission creep by both legislators and the regulator. Well we did just spend the last two pages of this thread discussing the fact that youngsters aren't coming into the hobby, but hey ho... We need to ensure that ANYBODY who wishes to enter the hobby is able to do so, but if the hobby is not attractive enough to our potential audience then that is difficult thing to change... WHY are paying a registration fee and taking a quick test a "serious obstacle"? It doesn't seem to be a "serious obstacle" to millions of people in this country getting a passport or taking a driving test. If I was a kid who was mildly interested in trying this hobby my first questions before any consideration of taking a test or registering would be more like: Where can I go to do this hobby? How do I get there? Can I go on my own (or do I have to get my parents to take me)? Who will help/teach me? How much stuff do I need to start this hobby? How much will it cost? How much time will I need to spend to get anywhere with the hobby? If they can answer all those questions and find the time/money/parental commitment to start, then I would suggest that paying £9 online and doing a multi-guess test online would be "childsplay". That, 'where can I go to do this hobby', I feel is probably the major drawback. Golf and fishing costs where also used as a comparison, but if there is no local golf course, or local fishing waters, that also adds in the 'how can I get there, ' problem. When I was young there seemed to be no problem of flying in the local park, local fields, local sports ground, local school facilities. But then came along 'health safety' (you can't d that here'. Fields get built on. and so the number of places you could learn to fly a model plane virtually own you own and within walking or cycling distance diminished. The BMFA National Center, is a great idea, if you live within a reasonable distance. Pity it couldn't have been some link with local sports recreation grounds, etc, to share their grounds/facilities, and dare I say subsidised by the BMFA with some of that 'National', our, money, to give more people access. ? Unless there is somewhere for new modelers to fly and enjoy their models, why would they be interested in aeromodelling as a hobby, it could become the equivalent of building plastic kits, pretty to look at, but what else can you do with them ? Not having local facilities is probably the the main reason why any hobby/sport/outdoor interest see fewer new and younger people interested in having a go. Ray. If I loose my local site for any reason, that's the end of the hobby for me. P.S. I fly within visual range of a large school, have done for quite a few years, safely. yet never had a single school kid come over to ask questions.

I don't post inhere very often, (little to add to the already experienced posters), but I feel many of the flying problems beginners have is down to the model and the teacher. Often the wrong model, and teachers who are set in their old ways I started into RC with single channel, having already flown free flight, which already helps considerably with how to trim a model, but that's rather irrelevant to todays first timers who either want a scale, possibly fast jet, or even down to poor model recommendations by experienced filers who haven't flown many modern trainer for years. Many clubs will only have IC powered club trainers, (flying bricks after all the repairs), or recommend IC power to start with, which can be very intimidating. Plus I'm sure there are still plenty of club member how who consider electric power 'toys', and a waste of time. Even the cheapest simple electric 'toy' planes can be a good starting model for gaining stick and control experience. I doubt many club members would recommend one. There are now many electric model fitted with gyro type stability that allows a total beginner to get experience and minimise crashes, and isn't that the best staring point for a beginner. If a club wants to increase it's club membership, or a forum its membership, or for someone to just teach one-to-one any local people, (kids to pensioners), it needs to consider all types of suitable training type models and power systems, and think a little more modern, not just, - 'we have always done it this way'/ 'it was good enough for me'. Ray.

If the new one could be as as good as RCGroups, ....... Ray.

Hi Keith Yes it has been a long time since my last post. She is finished and ground tested, but unflown so far. I haven't had a particularly good year, (it's an age thing, aches and pains), but hopefully she will, but probably not until next year. I don't have a picture of the full assembly, even the fuselage has to be in four pictures, (small room). Ray. P.S. I don't do 'scale', so I like the colour scheme. .

Best description I have come across so far -- 'face nappies'. Once upon a time we also had freedom of expression.