Robin Mosedale 1

Posted by SR 71 on 20/06/2020 14:46:22: If you want a good go to model the is very docile and can also be used to fly / practice F3A try the FMS Olympus, its a lovely foam model, comes complete and is ready at the field in five minutes, i had one in Cyprus and now intend to get another Thank you. What size Lipo are you using?

"or the Avicraft MiniPanic is an absolute hoot." Oh, Bob, The Panic has been around since the '80s, and I've seen many of them. Superb prop hanging and unbelievable aerobatics. Never tempted though I'm afraid

Posted by Richard Clark 2 on 19/06/2020 14:39:57: Acrowot. Preferably from the genuine Chis Foss kit, nor the Ripmax ARTF. Faults? You're an aeromodeller, you can fix any aspects of the kit you don't like. You will need something bigger than a 3S 2200 and it's matching motor of course, but it will be worth it. If you really want to use your existing stuff have a look at the 32 inch span Ole Tiger from the 'well-known and free plan download site'. Can't see a price on the Chris Foss site, but the Ripmax version is £259.99 and needs a 25-30cc glow engine, so presumably does the Chris Foss sourced one. I thought that the Sebart Sukhoi was expensive at £279

Posted by Peter Miller on 19/06/2020 16:54:24: The Ohmen is geat (Well,I would say that) Just one modification. Build tha tail out of soft 3/16" sheet. It is stronger and easier. Peter, thank you. I do really like it, fulfils the criteria nicely, and SARIK do a wood pack too. I'll take a slow read through your thread.

Posted by Paul C. on 19/06/2020 14:40:36: Take a look at the mustang by Ton Van Munson (don't think I have the spelling even close 😩 free plan some time back, sport scale, 3s power ,straight forward build, club member has had one for ages fly a dream and he fly in all weather's. Paul. Thanks Paul, Again, we have a hard RWY surface

Posted by Richard Clark 2 on 19/06/2020 14:39:57: Acrowot. Preferably from the genuine Chis Foss kit, nor the Ripmax ARTF. Faults? You're an aeromodeller, you can fix any aspects of the kit you don't like. You will need something bigger than a 3S 2200 and it's matching motor of course, but it will be worth it. If you really want to use your existing stuff have a look at the 32 inch span Ole Tiger from the 'well-known and free plan download site'. Indeed Richard, one of the range that looks like an aeroplane. The Chris Foss site doesn't mention electric, and wondered how you modified and what electric set up you used. Thanks Robin

Oh, That Ohmen looks nice, and right on spec

Thank you all, excellent suggestions all. I've taken a look at each suggestion, funny that EasyStreetII has come up twice at least. Anyone put wheels on it? Thank you Bob for drawing my attention to the Sebart series. Beautiful, typical Italians, and watched a few online videos. I was expecting it to be like a flying bullet, but both videos showed that respectable handling at much more scale like speed. Coupled with the fact that it looks right and is right.  (I do fly full size aerobatic, speed isn't all) I've priced it up, but intrigued, Bob that you obtained a HK version. In any event, thank you all, keep those suggestions coming Robin Edited By Robin Mosedale 1 on 19/06/2020 16:12:05

Ladies and Gents, I'd really welcome some advice on choice of aircraft. Although dabbled with RC a/c since the '70s, it's only recently in the last couple of years have I returned, joining a club, revalidating A Certificate and so forth. I'm not a hot shot, but middle of the road in terms of competence model type has been scratch/plan, traditional kit, ARTF and foamies. I do enjoy indoor flying too. I'm all electric and don't want to revert to IC. I plumped for a Multiplex 'Funman' (ironic) to get me restarted. It is adequate, a high winger, put together well. However, it's a foamy, doesn't penetrate well, and has a tendency to balloon. Precision isn't something that comes to mind. I'm looking for something a little more sporty, don't mind low, mid, shoulder or bipe. I'll defer my 'scale' preference until later. My battery stock is 3S 1600, 2200 2S 1300. I've tried a few second hand ARTF's. I've leaned that they're being sold for a reason. Flexing snakes, giving up just at the point of need, flimsy elevators etc. I'm probably asking too much, a 3s 2200 powered mid sports, mildly aerobatic, with some wind penetration that doesn't look like a box with wings. So.………. Don't mind kit build trad, or semi ARTF as long as build is OK. Do I really need to go 4S? The Wot series. Well it's well established, looks only just like an aeroplane, and the array of kits/ARTF/foamies all seem to have faults. I've trawled the usual sales sites, but it's difficult to get round the marketing hype. I'd welcome some suggestions fellow enthusiasts. Thanks Robin

Not very pleased. Aircraft started to behave very oddly, not as before. Difficult to gain control as to what seemed to be resisting my commands, whatever mode, including manual mode. Examination revealed that the multi-connector from the RX to the unit, had slipped. It's flimsy and doesn't secure very well. Nearly lost control. If I bother to refit, this connector will be secured bound with tape

I've had 4 lathes (and 1 CNC Mill). I'm getting smaller as time goes on. I've a TAIG/Peatol. Useless, and not man enough for other than clock making, and even then, it's pretty crude. Confined to a shelf. I've currently a Warco lathe, the digital read outs. It's my 3rd. Warco have been one of the better importers, ensuring that their quality is reasonable for the price point, and back up of suitable tooling. They have quite a rnage. I'm sure that you'd find something suitable there.

"But they will not throttle up." Yup, Just as I do with full size, alt controlled with throttle Posted by Denis Watkins on 07/09/2018 20:17:39: Used properly, stabilisation is fine Robin, but don't forget that they will maintain straight and level But they will not throttle up. Maintain speed as normal, and any crosswind will be taken care of too

Cringe

Interesting, Denis. Having tested approach in 2D, which is 'maintain straight and level', I'll attempt approach in 3D, "maintain attitude", with plenty sky under the wings. Once familiarised with behaviour, I may put it into a Stuka, which has much more mass and inertia than my Multiplex Funman.

Another test yesterday. Now trims reset and level attitude. 3D feels very odd, 2D very effective as soon as sticks centred, but even with gain up max, buffeting not really countered. Test touch and go's: with 2D engaged, set up on heading for approach, and use throttle for height control. Seemed very effective. Repeated with unit disengaged, just as good. So not conclusive. Not sure about this as yet, but persevere, as it's really a 'get out of trouble' for more tricky scale stuff rather than a simple trainer.

So that's where all the FMS Stuka's disappeared to the weekend I was after one.

Well, set it up, test flight yesterday afternoon. Fascinating characteristics in each od Mode 2D and 3D. Rock solid approaches. Much more progressive experimentation to come. Excellent investment, and thank to the advice on here

Arrived yesterday. Pretty comprehensive and I'll not rush setting it up

Pretty sure it's OK, as he'd also got a further 8 channel expansion module, and he sounded OK Posted by Steve J on 23/08/2018 12:27:48: Posted by Robin Mosedale 1 on 23/08/2018 12:24:10: Also picked up a 9 channel Spektrum receiver second hand Be very careful with second hand Spektrum receivers. There are a lot of counterfeits around. Steve

Thank you all. I've ordered an Eagletree Guardian from Hobbyking. I'll test it out on a stable trainer after spending time making sure that I understand how to set it up and the modes. Also picked up a 9 channel Spektrum receiver second hand, so when satisfied, migrate the Gaurdian to another plane, and the 9 channel gives me headroom for future growth. Excellent help all. Robin

Interesting, hadn't considered Multiplex Posted by Percy Verance on 20/08/2018 19:27:41: Another vote here for the Multiplex G3 I think it's cheaper than the Eagle job mentioned earlier. I paid £40 odd quid for mine about 18 months back. Probably a bit more now. Tom. I wonder why the pilot didn't simply switch the stabiliser out and fly away from the tree? That's assuming the unit he was using was on/off switchable from the tx? The Mpx G3 certainly is...... Edited By Percy Verance on 20/08/2018 19:31:13

The Hobbyking unit: Eagletree Guardian as in discussion here? >Posted by Nik Harrison on 20/08/2018 18:43:03: I went for the separate gyro route having run out of channels on the AS3X. First tried the HobbyKing unit but that failed on me on the first flight. Second went for the Multiplex Multigyro G3 unit. More expensive and you have to work through the poor german/english translation but it does work. Had no problems flying and landings are lovely. The Rx I'm using is the Spektrum AR8000 in a Nijhuis A400. I did have the advantage of space in the fuse though. Definitely recommend the Multiple unit.

Well, Tom, I can do that, even in full size, if I set heading hold, it'll do just that. No doubt the modes were too complicated for this flyer. Posted by Tom Sharp 2 on 20/08/2018 17:40:29: I saw a plane recently fitted with the full stabilization gubbins, it flew determinedly into the tallest tree around, despite the efforts of the pilot to divert it.

Jason, Well, this looks like it's this one. The things that tipped me were:- 1. It states clearly what it is capable of 2. It clearly shows the connection set up 3. The documentation is easily found, comprehensive, clear and unambiguous. 4. It does stabilization, attitude lock and much more I'm going to give this a trial and may become the standard if successful Fabulous responses all. Many thanks Robin Posted by Jason Inskip on 18/08/2018 19:24:41: I would second an eagletree guardian. Separate unit, very customizable, much more effective that the Lemon stabiliser+, and it will allow dual aileron and aileron differential. Free shipping to the uk from hobbyking EU warehouse at the moment: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/eagletree-guardian-2d-3d-inertial-flight-stabilizer.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwh9_bBRA_EiwApObaOIm2gPOTpVMMaeXz3Gy0f9Jb69NdxVEn0Kzd6rrgHkTVbg37qbiThRoCWUYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Edited By Jason Inskip on 18/08/2018 19:25:21

The modes are comprehensive, probably more than anyone really needs, but attitude hold/wing levelling appeals for nice locked approach/finals Posted by Denis Watkins on 18/08/2018 15:54:09: Posted by Robin Mosedale 1 on 18/08/2018 13:16:01: Anyone come across these:- HOBBYEAGLE A3 Super 3 6-Axis Gyro & Flight Controller Stabilizer Half Set Program Card for RC Airplane Drone UAV **LINK** What are you looking for in the above Robin? For fixed wing, there are cheaper and simpler options