Andrew767

Ignorance.......Lack of information!!...and the sense that i used it in. That was the point of my post. I don't think people are stupid but i do think information on this subject is a bit thin on the ground unless you dig for it. Andrew

Mitsubishi also give an 8yr warranty on their batteries. Upped from 5yrs when they realised that the batteries were standing up to use much better than expected. One of the problems at the moment Percy is that as you have discovered, the information is out there if you look for it. However it doesn't seem to be pushed out to the wider public. I suspect that this explains much of the ignorance we see here. Both car manufacturers and power companies really need to address this. The reuse of Nissan batteries being a case in point. Well known to those with an interest but not elsewhere. Andrew

Tourer usually means it's not great as an estate....However the Mazda 6 sports tourer is fantastic....Cars don't have to be German. Unless you're happy with mediocrity in the reliability and build quality stakes!!...But sometimes it's all about badges. Andrew

Not an optimist......Merely a realist Don... Andrew

I didn't think that you were starting an argument,merely stating your position. However i would prefer that you didn't mix your posts when quoting me. Nissan expect to be able to exceed 300 mls per charge by next year and i am happy to wait and see. Considering what Tesla have done there is no reason why not. The technology is moving fast. My PHEV has a suggested maximum of 33mls on pure EV , the best i have achieved is 31 but by the same token, my range has never sunk in winter to the often claimed 12-15mls always reaching 20-22 mls.EVs are better than you think.As always experience trumps theory. Andrew

Sadly Frank, I think i may have detracted from the thread by that comment. My point was that Dud was a bit of a silly comment, just because a particular vehicle doesn,t suit your needs. However on that theme i can tell you from experience that a 4x4 on normal tyres is better than 2x4 on winter tyres but you are are quite correct regarding low profile...just daft!! Andrew

Posted by Don Fry on 15/04/2018 09:59:53: So Andrew, why buy a dud this year, when I can drive a lesser dud next. And I have driven a Leaf. A neibour has one. Not special, but the regenerative breaking was amusing. And please don't do the solid state battery dream. And Percy, you haven't answered the question. Your 180 mile claim is at odds with my source. And you advised Erf that his shopping trip is good to go, and I fear him running out of watts when he his going past his fracking protestors, if my source is correct. Don't get me wrong, I applaud and support the transition to electric cars. A half ton white van for the local electrician or plumber is a goer. But the Leaf is a bit player, subsidised at that, and needs to up its game before it sells in serious numbers.   Bit of an odd reply Don...I have neither suggested that you hadn't driven a Leaf, nor have i ever mentioned solid state batteries!!. But if you want to see a real dud, look out for SUVs with two wheel drive.....Utterly pointless!!. Although very amusing to watch in the snow. Andrew Edited By Andrew767 on 15/04/2018 17:54:22

Thanks for that BEB. That is good news. Andrew

Looking at Beb's quoted figures on page one, it seems quite scarey that that the number of votes has dropped so dramatically. From just under 2000 in 2014 to less than 350 now. Are we really loosing that many members on the forum?. I know i don't post much but i read every day (everyone seems to know more than i do, so i can't add much). Is this the case?. Are our numbers down so much?. Andrew

FB3.....also look at Panaracer from Japan. A superb range of tyres and also consider latex inner tubes. These do a great job of coping with minor punctures but without the mess. Andrew

No Don....The new leaf is equivalent to the introduction of brushless and lipos, in other words, a game changer!!. Next year the Leaf will exceed 300mls range and a Nismo version will be added.Yet another game changer and i expect,quite a shock to the hot hatch brigade... Andrew

Yep.......Mine is ok too......Do what Bob said..

Posted by Frank Skilbeck on 20/03/2018 09:45:04: Posted by Graham R on 20/03/2018 09:27:05: Many years ago, my 1st adult bicycle had a dynamo built in to the wheel hub and this would power the lights. If applied to a car could this be used to put back a little charge into the battery? Do they use this on electric cars?   They use the motors to recharge the battery when the car is slowing down, the new Nissan Leaf has settings where you can adjust the amount of regenerative braking, they call it one pedal driving as when you take your foot off the accelerator it then uses the kinetic energy to recharge the battery. One reason why the brake pads last so long, but this has led to another problem with brake discs corroding because they are never cleaned by the brake pads, because the user doesn't use the mechanical brakes. https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/OVERVIEW/e_Pedal.html Edited By Frank Skilbeck on 20/03/2018 09:49:08 Just to clarify this.All EVs have regen braking,not just the OnePedal system by Nissan..At present Nissan have 3 levels of regen braking and Mitsubishi have 5. Brake corrosion isn't a problem on two pedal cars as although regen will slow you down, it doesn't actually stop the vehicle (unless you are going uphill of course) so the brakes are still used but less often. Andrew Edited By Andrew767 on 20/03/2018 15:33:24

Sorry Frank But with a 300ml+ range ,you can do much more than just go to the shops!!.....There is a great deal of ignorance about EV's. Andrew

Sorry Don BIK = Benefit in kind.......For tax purposes!! Andrew ..ICE.....yes....Infernal combustion engine!! Edited By Andrew767 on 16/03/2018 19:20:16

I think i need to begin by making an apology as i've had to redo the bathroom for the last two weeks and can i just say that tiling and grouting is the work of Satan!!! Bob...I don't know if your taxi driver is talking out of his tailpipe or not but the worst MPG i've had from ICE only is 34MPG, however, a member on the owners forum,who admits that he only bought his Outlander for the BIK claimed that on a journey from London to Glasgow , he only managed 20mpg at 90mph on the motorway. Read into that what you will. Andrew

Trevor....a very good point about help in fitting PVs. I often wonder about just how many acres of rooftops are available to generate energy. Once we have Powerwalls, the possibilities are almost endless. Not just charging the car but also hot water,showers and even the central heating, without ever needing the grid and any surplus going to power traffic lights, street lighting etc. Andrew Edited By Andrew767 on 02/03/2018 19:30:05

Posted by Bob Cotsford on 02/03/2018 12:30:22: At present the electric market is pretty much limited to new vehicle sales. As a private owner I'm not sure it makes economic sense yet even with the Government 5 grand subsidy. Here is just one comparison that doesn't look so good for new technology. Then again, I wouldn't consider buying any new car, I let someone else take the depreciation hit . As for hybrids, I was chatting to a taxi driver last Tuesday, one of his colleagues had a Mitsubishi Outlander and had said that once past the pure electric range actual fuel consumption was worse than a pure fossil version. Any electric owners care to add actual experiences of real world costs of ownership rathar than just running costs? Edited By Bob Cotsford on 02/03/2018 12:31:09 Yes Bob.....I have an Outlander PHEV. What would you like to know?. Andrew

Leasing is not becoming popular ......it is popular!!...More than 90% of new cars coming on to the roads are rented on PCPs and the cost of that PCP is entirely dependent on the resale value. Diesel values are collapsing and those rentals are not going to remain cheap. The only economical option ( whether you like it or not!!!) is to switch to EV,HEV or PHEV...... Andrew

Percy....Regards servicing...Yes,Ev is cheaper because there is less to do.I pay £21 a month. Yes the brake pads need changing less frequently because you brake less using regen....As to resale values, i couldn't believe the comment about EV's being worth 50% of an I.c...That has to be a joke!!...Example..3yr old Outlander PHEV £17000..3yr old Outlander Diesel £10500..both cost the same when new. This was at a main dealer. Bob, an Outlander might be just the vehicle for you. Have a look at the Mitsubishi website. P.s Percy, i wonder how many people on this thread either own or have ever used an EV reading some of the comments. Andrew........A happy PHEV owner!!

Pay per mile is the way it will go...otherwise people would get around any tax by using solar arrays and powerwalls. Using PPM, everyone pays. It's a bit like VAT. You can cheat on the income tax but everyone pays when they spend it. Andrew

I have to say that i have not had any problems with Spektrum (another G2 DX7 user) and i don't know anyone else who has had problems,bearing in mind that most of my club use Spektrum. Andrew

Pay per mile would be great because those who use the roads most would pay the most...pretty fair by any estimation. It might also make people think about those unneeded journeys and help to unclog the roads. Percy, you clearly love Toyota and theres no denying their reliability including their Lexus offshoot but don't forget that the Mitsubishi Outlander was voted most reliable SUV in 2017 and that was in no small part down to the PHEV version. Andrew

Posted by Geoff Sleath on 23/01/2018 17:06:42: One dark winter morning I'd just set off to work along our quiet road on my bike and had a near miss from a postman stepping off the kerb reading the addresses on the letters he was carrying. That and suddenly seeing a ladder extended across the road as a guy was carrying on his shoulder down an entry made me wonder if silence really is golden No other traffic about on either occasion - I used to set off about 06.30. I suppose there's the added hazard of people walking along looking at their so-called smart phones these days. OK, back on topic. If we're looking for a hybrid or 100% electric car (probably the former) second-hand has anyone any idea where or what we should be looking at? We rarely use the car for short journeys. We usually walk or catch the bus into either of our two local small towns which are only 2.5 miles away in opposite directions. As we only drive about 3k miles/year fuel consumption isn't so important but my wife in particular is very environmentally aware and we'd prefer to pollute as little as possible. My main car use is to go flying. Geoff Geoff You say you don't use your car for short journeys.If thats the case then diesel still makes sense. EVs, HEVs and PHEVs at the moment make most sense on multiple short journeys and the occasional longer trip. Used EVs are thin on the ground and you you need to decide what type of vehicle that you need first. Then consider, the type of journey that you make most often. To be honest if you need a big estate for flying and you only cover 3000mls a year, an Outlander PHEV could be right down your street as you could run it almost exclusively on electric....i.e....cheap as chips. Depends on your Kwh charge of course but i get 25mls for about 90pence. Way cheaper than petrol. Andrew

EVs have a white noise generator to alert pedestrians. If the car was totally silent, then the driver had chosen to turn it off!. I have this option on mine but i don't really see the point of it, so leave mine on. As Phil says the issue is more to do with people not looking where they are walking or focusing on something else like a phone. Andrew