Canadian Chipmunk markings

Phil Francis · February 14, 2016

Building a Apache Aviation Chipmunk and cannot find a scaleable JPG of the tail marking. its for RCAF 671 as seen in picture above. The one on the fin. Any ideas?

Regards

Phil

Edited By Phil Francis on 14/02/2016 14:54:37

Jim Purcha · February 14, 2016

Does this help? How big do you need the flag?

Edited By Jim Purcha on 14/02/2016 16:13:56

Phil Francis · February 14, 2016

Thanks Jim your a star

Regards

Phil

John Privett · February 14, 2016

Interesting... Whilst Jim's flag is the one that appears on a lot of RCAF aircraft, it appears slightly different to the one on 671. Jim's image is the Canadian Red Ensign.

Here's a crop from another shot of 671's tail. The contents of the "shield" bit are not quite the same...

The Maple Leaves at the bottom are the same, but the four quadrants above are not. I know there are lots of different Canadian flags for various provinces/territories, but quite what 617's flag is I'm not sure...

Steven S · February 14, 2016

The flag that Jim Pucha shows is the official Canadian Red Ensign used from 1922 - 1957.

Phil Francis · February 14, 2016

Thanks guys, it's only for local club flying so it does not have to be historically correct. As Jim,s is the only one I have seen I will use that as its near enough for me.

Waiting for the fallout from that.

Regards

Phil

Steven S · February 14, 2016

Not what you were looking for, but this is the RCAF Royal Ensign used from 1941 - 1968.

Edited By Steven Shaw on 14/02/2016 20:10:51

John Privett · February 14, 2016

Posted by Phil Francis on 14/02/2016 19:46:27:

Thanks guys, it's only for local club flying so it does not have to be historically correct. As Jim,s is the only one I have seen I will use that as its near enough for me.

I'm sure that's the pragmatic approach Phil, but I'm still intrigued to know what the flag on 617 actually is!

If I could find a decent picture of it anywhere I'd send it to my daughter who's studying in Ontario and should be able to find somebody out there who could identify it!

Phil Francis · February 14, 2016

Hi John, I have been looking on and off for a couple of weeks and haven't found a clear picture.

Regards

Phil

Steven S · February 15, 2016

Phil - I live in Canada, but upon checking I found that this Chipmunk was built by De Havilland Canada and ended up in The Shuttleworth Collection at Old Warren, Bedfordshire, England since 2000.

I see that it flew in their airshow in 2013.

Edited By Steven Shaw on 15/02/2016 05:00:52

Tony Richardson · February 15, 2016

If you are really looking for the authentic markings I am sure Ray at **LINK** can and will help.

Phil Francis · February 15, 2016

Thanks everyone for your help.

Phil

John Privett · December 23, 2016

Just returning to this one... I happened to find myself at Old Warden today (I had 4 hours to 'kill' in/around Peterborough between dropping-off a passport application and picking-up the passport) and spotted the Canadian Chipmunk that this thread was about.

So here is a close-up of the tail. (Click on the image to see it full-size)

I'll ask my daughter's Canadian boyfriend if he recognises the flag when they return later this evening.

Edited By John Privett on 23/12/2016 21:37:33

Matt Jones · December 23, 2016

Looking at the original image I suggest it is the same as what Jim posted, simply a bit faded and crucially, reversed, the give away is the union jack being backwards too. I reckon the port side is per Jim's post and all they've done is flip the image to create one for the starboard side but they've been lazy.

Tony Richardson · December 23, 2016

It almost looks like a reverse image of a provincial flag but which one I cant say as most provinces don't have five idifferent symbols in their shield and these five look to be symbols from different provinces.
I will have to consult withother club members as I have only been in Canada since 1974 it could be from way earlier.

Edited By Tony Richardson on 23/12/2016 22:13:41

Edited By Tony Richardson on 23/12/2016 22:14:43

Tim Cheal · December 23, 2016

Well, not lazy, but in compliance with aerial etiquette.

Imagine the flag was flying at the rear of a ship, from one side (in the case of a ship and aviation the port side) it would appear normal, from the other side it would appear reversed. You don't very often see the starboard side of your passenger airliner, but the flag is reversed as well.

I am not that sad really, I was asked by a passenger once (who had unusually boarded on the Starboard side) why the Union Flag was flying backwards as it was bad luck. After a bit of research I discovered the previous information.

You won't look at aircraft markings the same again!

Happy Christmas to all.

Tim.

John Privett · December 24, 2016

Yep - Matt is of course spot-on. It's the Canadian Red Ensign (old) as doubly confirmed by daughter's BF. Just the one on the Old Warden Chippie is reversed (I should have taken a shot from round the other side for comparison!) and somewhat worn/paint-flaked.

Former Member · December 24, 2016