Solid Snake Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I have just seen the Graupner F35. It is one fantastic looking model.Is it as good as it looks and what is it made of, it just says "foam" on sussex model centre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Drop dead georgeous that one, there are a lot of little foamy EDF models like this one coming onto the market at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Looks like the Freewing F-35 I have sat in front of me! If it is then it's made of EPS, is very easy to put together and goes like the proverbial. I'm using a cheap 4200Kv 20mm Keda inrunner and 40amp esc. You can get the plane and fan only for £55 plus shipping from BRC so the SMC deal looks pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 It IS the Freewing F35....as for good value....hmmmm, in our defence, 2 x £3.99 servo's [2 kg torque!] takes it up to £62.98, now....that leaves £16.99 for a motor? Easy if you want cheap 'n' cheerful.....we hardly sell EDF with factory fitted motors for exactly that reason....they are usually cheap 'n' cheerful! Not knocking Graupner [for sticking their name on it], or SMC.....but I would say price is basically the same.....I have been flying one for a few months now, little belter, but for goodness sake, DON'T try to fit a 2200mAh 3s Lipo as per that ad.....had trouble balancing mine [nose heavy] on a 1300mAh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 SMC deal also includes an ESC so yes I would say it's a good deal if it lasts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 The deal or the ESC!!!!!? I know what you mean, we would just rather people use a proven, quality power train [their choice] to fly such a gorgeous little thing, it's certainly fast if you use a decent set up..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Mine threw a blade on the stock rotor straight away so I fitted a GWS 64mm rotor and it works just as good. Scott will you be stocking the Freewing T38 or L39? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I think the GWS 64 is a good choice, we have just started doing them for 3mm shafts for our famous DF210-8XL 5200kv motor. Have a look at our gallery, we have test flown the L39.....on the stock set up....it's pretty awful I'm afraid! Some new stuff on it's way that's going to give a few people a smile or two! New hand-launch Panther is pretty cool, HE162 Salamander arrives very soon which I'm really looking forward too.....did I mention the F14 Tomcat with swing-wing and twin fans?......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Snake Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 How strong is the styrene foam? Our flying field dosn't have a runway and usaly has quite long grass with clumps of weeds in it, would it just rip it self to pieces on the landing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 The foam is thin and is approx 6mm in most areas. Keep it light and it floats in well for a landing but I use self-adhesive tranparent film from bookshops to protect the underside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Snake Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 Just to make things even more confusing I looked on BRC hobbies and there are two F 35 models on it. Both are different, one is bigger with a retractable landing gear and a motor and fan and the other is the freewing/graupner version. The bigger version is also sold on http://www.gbdmodelaircraft.com/description.php?iddesc=289 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Snake Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 Tape on the underside has protected my rather battered powered glider very well so I may try it on the F 35 if I get one. I was just a bit worried about taking the entire underside off on the landing or it collapsing on a heavy landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Catch the intake ducts on landing and you probably will take chunks out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I have been flying mine for a good while now, and our strip is tarmac with a rather rough strip of grass up the side, and it's not a scratch on it, the underside is virtually totally flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Snake Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 Do you land on the tarmac or the grass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 On the grass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Snake Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 Are there any EPP versions of an F 35 anywhere?Or any good Ducted fan warbirds that would be be a good first fan model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 BRC's F-16 for £35 is a fantastic EDF. It does everything extremely well and is very stable. I have mine running a HET 3W motor in a HET fan on 4 cell and it's a joy to fly. My favourite edf for sure.Scott, can you tell me how much throw and expo you are using on your F-35 please? I'll use duall rates with expo but would like to get some good base settings before maiden. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I think 100% with lot's [50%] expo, roll rate is fast as you would expect, but C of G is pretty critical, so I would initially use 100% just in case you are a tad nose heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Hi James, the afformention F16, or one of my faves, the A7 Corsair, there is also the brand new hand launch version Panther....the F16 is certainly the cheapest of the lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Snake Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 The panther is a very nice looking model so is the F16, but I think that I would rip the air intake off on the corsair. There is a weird looking "shark" jet is that any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Snake Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 With the BRC F 16 is it epp like the phase 3 version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 The Phase 3 airframe isn't Phase 3, it's actually Enroute......exactly the same as ours, as for it being EPP.......where do Phase 3 claim that? The flying shark flies disturbingly well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Gallagher Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Hi scott, i am still trying to get that CG right on your F35 way to nose heavey with the Rino 2150 4S (14.8v) 20C/30C that is recommended on your web site has any body flown one of these on that set up, i have thought of using the two 2S lipos you said but i dont see how that would help even if staggared as they come to nearly the same weight as the other battery, however i can fit the 14v battery in my F9F Panther i bought from your shop, and its CG is not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott cuppello Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, this isn't the place to sort it, and two staggered packs might weigh "nearly" the same [no such thing as nearly basically, a few grams here and there makes all the difference], but 2 x 2s Lipo's can be moved inches apart if needed.....so that is exactly what is required, as I said, return the 2100 4s, and we can sort it....easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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