Paul Jones 1 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yes, this is a stupid question....... I'm very new to the hobby, at least newly returning to the hobby (have introduced myself in the beginners section) Trying to finish off the simple build of my typhoon 3D...... and whilst there may be the odd thing you can skip in the instructions and get away with......... fitting the propellor probably isn't one of them ! I can't get the spinner off ! ....... it just say "remove..........fit prob and re-attach spinner. Can't see a screw in it ........ but it's not that keep on pulling off ! I don't want to damage the motor or gear box...... can someone enlighten me ? many thanks Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 There are no stupid questions Paul - but you might get stupid answersIs the spinner already on the prop and not fitted to the model yet then My guess is that you have one of those funny great long GWS style gearbox output shafts, which the prop unit screws onto. If its the rubbery plasticky type spinner cone, then these just pull off first, and reveal the thrreaded shaft with a nut and washer holding the prop on. Try unscrewing it. Post a picture to help us identify the parts, and I am sure you will get a reply.Edited By Timbo - Moderator on 21/07/2009 17:08:23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jones 1 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thankyoiu very kindly for your reply, the spinner is already fitted, need to be removed for the prop to be fitted. Strangely, it reminds me of the exact material that 'red noses' were made of, kind of bendy plastic stuff, there are no screws in it........... but it's damn well stuck on, so I was a bit worried about puling like hell ! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hi Paul. Is it this one; If it is. You have to pinch it and pull. Sometimes they put a dab of silicone on it when its pushed on. Great plane, better with a Lipo than Nimah. hold the prop at the base, pinch and pull spinner. I had 2 great seasons with mine. Learnt loads. If you are using Nimahs, try the 9.6v packs - longer flight times and more power. CoG slightly reawards and it'll hang prop well. If the props not on yet. Just pull you won't damage the motor/gearbox. BB Vid quality not brilliant - Very misty Edited By Basildon Biggles on 21/07/2009 17:44:01Edited By Basildon Biggles on 21/07/2009 17:47:23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jones 1 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 That is the one, I'm just going for a pull ! (on the spinner that is) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Paul - If that is the plane you have. Use 'low' rates if your tx has the facility, most do. Its a lively hack. The bigger prop is better for initial orientation of its flying style and good for 3D. Smaller ones better for speed. Damn is that the time - Off to work BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 This is mine - its a bit 'naked' without the cowl. Now I am going to work ! BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jones 1 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well, I just joined the forum about a couple of hours ago, and I'm really pleased and thankfull to the people that have replied, this certainly a lively forum ! I've still some questions about setting up the ESC, I'm sure the instructions said that the standard setting for batteries is ni-cad ? (maybe I'm wrong?) and that to set for my Overlander 35C lipoly (1700mah / 11.1v 3S) (and acording to the instructions, avoid fire) is to set for this type of battery using a sequence of transmitter instructions Might sound silly and basic to you guys, but I've never heard of anything like this. The guy that sold me the kit never mentioned this......... but needless to say (and even if I need to take it back to the shop, he did mention that it would be no problem to call back for help in setting up)............ I just don't wish to plug in and cause damage ! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jones 1 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 The spinner did just pull off, thanks.......... but it seems so much easier to do when someone confirms that this is the right thing to do ! Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tim Mackey Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Plugging in the Lipo wont cause damage, The issue is one of low voltage cut off - LiPo batteries must NOT be discharged below a minimum level, which these days is around 2.8V per cell absolute minimum or even slightly highter. Your ESC has a device called LVC which stops power to the motor ( but not the radio ) when the battery gets low, and if its set as standard for nickel batteries, then his will be too low for the Lipos. "Programming" the ESC to set it up for this cutoff voltage is done as your friend says with the Tx throttle stick and a series of beeps and dashes and so on, and frankly, if you dont have the manual for that particualr ESC your pretty goosed as its a nightmare of ajob at the best of times. Some ESCs use a nice easy plug in card to set them up...but again - we need to know the exact model of ESC please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 cross posted there with polyESCman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Instruction Manual. Im at work now so am just nicking some PC time before I hit the road Paul Instruction manual Follow step 9. Programming for Lipos is only slightly different from Nimah's. To enter switch TX on with throttle trim at zero. Throttle stick at max. All other trims at neutral. Restrain the plane just incase. Switch on plane. After that just follow the instructions. After a couple of run throughs I found it very easy to set up. Brake Off. Throttle stick up = yes/select Throttle Stick dowm + no Whichever you select. After that selection return the throttle to the middle (ish). This acts as an interim/waiting for your next input. Motor timming is already preset. So no need to alter that one. For Lipos you need Throttle 'UP' setting. Infact its the ONLY setting you need to change. Programming Your ESC: 1. To enter the programming mode, the controller must be powered up with the throttle in full position and held there for 5 seconds. 2. When this is done, the ESC will be in the setup mode and will beep three times indicating this. 3. Once in this programming mode, return the throttle to mid-stick within 3 seconds, and the ESC will scroll through the menu. When in the programming mode, select yes (up) or no (down) as follows: Yes: Move throttle stick to full for approximately 1 second (controller will beep once), then return to mid-stick. No: Move throttle stick to low throttle for 1 second (controller will beep once), and then return to mid-stick. A. Menu Item 1: Voltage Auto Cut-Off 1 beep – auto cut-off (Need to act within 5 seconds Li-Po – up Ni-MH – down (stock setting) After the setting of this parameter, the controller will wait approximately 3 seconds before moving to next BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 During the 3 seconds after you have made a setting change. You can switch off. Setting will stay. (soz - if my cut and paste has gone wonky mods) BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jones 1 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 again, thanks for your answers ! - I dont have the instructions for the ESC as it's the one fitted as standard to the Typhoon 3D(there are no seperate instuctions) , it does say (and I must check the iinstucctions, I swear that the ones I searched on the net are different) that the standard settings are for Ni-cad and that I must follow the sequence of instructions to set for my Lipoly Overlander 3S battery I don't understand the slightest bit of this yet, but you guys are certainly very kind, and if you guys don't mind I'm gonna stick at this, every bit of advice is 'really' appreciated and I look forward to that bright sunday morning when I do get in the air ! Paul also... may I ask, what does "3S" mean ?, and is this the correct way to refer to my Overlander Extreme 35C Lipoly 1700mah 11.1v 3S) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 BB Please don't post any more pictures of you without your "cowl". Does look odd doesn't it 'There you are -Thats 'Lektrik Paul -- Told you I'm grumpy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tim Mackey Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hi Paul - I did say that programming ESCs with the throttle stick, and no instructions to hand is not easy - are you able to follow BBs instructions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Incidentally Paul - if you are the type who thirsts for knowledge there are plenty of threads on this lekky flight stuff - and a few articles here on the forum also.Try this for starters. Edited By Timbo - Moderator on 21/07/2009 19:54:26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jones 1 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks for all your replies, you honestly don't know how much it helps, I've taken in everything that everyones said, and as suggested, the more I keep reading, the more I will learn. I'll look at connecting the battery shortly...... and assuming that the one lead which is protruding from the front of the airplane ( from the direction of the speed controller ) is the one that is connected to " Thrott" of the reciever...... and that this lead also provides power to the reciever then I'll be onto the next step ! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Paul give the wing joiners a good tug. Mine came loose and had to be reglued. I used silicone for that job. And again when I nosed it over and broke the nose off lol. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Click the link below for a complete parts listing Parts List BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 No news for a wee while. So begs the question - How'd ya get on with it ? BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jones 1 Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Thanks for your message, I did infact get the spinner off but I've been a bit busy at work and the house, I just need to get myself a little time to get the plane finished. I've the speed controller to set up and the servo plugs to shave off so that I can plug what I think are Futaba type plugs into my Spektrum (JR?) type reciever. how will I know which way to plug the plugs in ? My next question, will probably be (and I don't have the model right now to look) is where to plug the aileron servos in, as there's only one 'ail' socket....... although, silly me....... models used one servo for ailerons back in my day ! lol , perhaps this needs to be mixed using the radio. Sounds a bit technical to me, but I'll look into it soon cheers Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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