Glasshopper Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 My sharkface wings were polystyrene, profiled with sandpaper and covered with sheet balsa. I think the name "Bazz Bomb" was derived from the name of the designer..... Basil something or other. If BB can find his plan I would welcome a copy or w.h.y. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Hi Glasshopper, It's not on the index list, but I do remember the plan being around a few years ago. I stopped updating the index a few years ago but stopped at 152, there are probably twice as many not done yet. If I can find it I'll get it copied for you. Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Be interested to see what the model looks like Chris.....I wonder if its the same one as I remember from the late 70's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Glasshopper, Steve, Here you go, thinking about it I may have this mag in the study and thsat may be where I've seen it. I'll try to check it out later. I'm sure I had the plan somewhere though. Bazzbomb Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 That does look like the one I remember...shoulder wing etc....I see its designed for a 1.5cc motor....the one I recall had a Fuji (remember them??) motor in it......I think it was a 19 but I suspect it must have been a 15 having seen the plan....it certainly went like stink.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Hi Steve, Jep that's the one I remember, just wish I could find the plans, I've got 5 boxes catalogued already and theres another 6 deep boxes and a piles of loose mags to go yet. Rather then go through all of the boxes, I might just buy the mag and enlarge the drawing as it looks like it was a real hooligans tool and I've a few 1.5 to 2.5 motors looking for a job. Simple Simon is another model that stands out as a fun tool and I know where that one is. Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Well if you do find the plan could I trouble you to make a copy for me too.....let me know what I owe ya!! I have an OS15 from 1981 sat doing nothing.....would be great to give that an airing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Hi Steve, Glasshopper, The plan and the mag are likely to be in the study amongst this lot somewhere, all of which are not catalogued yet. I'll go for the one on Ebay anyway. Cheers, Chris. Edited By Big Bandit on 12/05/2012 01:45:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasshopper Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Bazz Bomb is listed in Xplans £12.50 plus p&P there's inflation for you!; **LINK** Edited By Steve Hargreaves - Moderator on 13/05/2012 07:27:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasshopper Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 This is the link I was trying to post! Should read instruction.s It doesn't matter what I do the link doesn't work....just go to Xplans and type in BAZZ BOMB **LINK** Edited By Glasshopper on 12/05/2012 21:59:40 Edited By Steve Hargreaves - Moderator on 13/05/2012 07:28:13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_B Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 My single channel experience started with a high wing cabin plane called 'Smoke Trail' after which I built a couple (or was it 3 of 'em? It's too long ago to remember) of Sharkfaces powered by a Cox Golden Bee and whilst I had the plan of Bazz Bomb, I actually built a similar plane called Sawdust which used an AM15 diesel for it's propulsion, which I still have kicking around somewhere. This I converted to 2 channel proportional via a very colourfull and plasticky looking single stick Horizon set. After that I never used my single channel gear again, but I'm glad I've had the Sharface experience. Happy days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Hi Bill, I still have the plan of the Smoke Trail and it's in my index, I also have a few Golden Bee's, QZ's and Black widows. The horizon gear was great in it's day after faffing around with split supplies on Deacs and 4 wire servo's which in itself was a great advance on SC, galloping ghost, and reed gear. I've done a Sharkface for the Vintage mass build with one of the QZ's on the front. Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Your links work now Glasshopper..... This tutorial might help you....PM me if you need more asisstance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Steve, Glasshopper, Just ordered the 12 issues of Aeromodeller for 1964 so should have the details of the Bazz Bomb in the October issue, I'll draw it up if your still interested. Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 Steve, Eck Your planes look fantastic! Now I want one covered with film, with ailerons and straight wing, but first I'll bump the plan twice. And in the name of science will try to put a`nitro engine to it, say .10FP which I recently restored from scrap... Cheers Tom Edited By Major on 17/05/2012 19:33:23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Blimey Tom....an OS10 in a Sharky will be interesting to say the least......proceed with extreme caution!!! Chris I feel bad....I didn't expect you to rush out & buy all the Aeromodellers & share the Bazz Bomb plan with us lot.....you are too generous.....let us know what we owe you for the copies.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Tom- another two have been built by club members here in Dundee, with our esteemed Chairman signalling his intent to start one this weekend as the weather forecast is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Alex, there will be more of them . Now I'm finishing Mini Tyro, after that will get back to Sharky. Could anybody tell me, how it behaves with diesel engine? Say - Cox Golden Bee 0.49? And the most important question - how to land before fuel runs out?" Is it possible to cut throttle anyhow on that one? As far as I've seen - not really, but just want to make sure. And from other side - what is it like with ailerons? My rudder + elevator is very sensitive, so I can't really imagine that... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hey Tom, Long time no hear, If you look at the tread on my Sharky I wound up with a Cox QZ 049 much the same motor as the Golden Bee, but they are both glow motors not diesels. TBH the only way to stop the thing running with these tanked motors is to roll inverted and hold it there till the motor stops then half roll and land. It's a very successful method once you are used to it, the Dipsticks I built in the 80's used the same motors and they were very good at aileron elevator aerobatics. I'm going to have to build an aileron version now aren't I . Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hey Chris! It was a bit long time... I had some kind of "crisis", didn't even want to look at my planes on the wall, but something happened... I got rid of one idiot from my house, so I have a room just for me and my models, and my mate has given me .10FP without needle valve... As I had one, just fitted it quickly, gave it a good wash, assembled quickly my "test stand" and in seconds it was running. So if it's not diesel, what fuel should I use? Standard 10% from Model Technics would do? And how to fly it with full power?? Does it constantly climb?? Tell us a bit more Chris!! I think it would be faster just to make new wings, but in my case - I'd need to strip front of fuselage to take out motor and ESC... As it was my first ever built RC plane, don't want to touch it. Will build another one instead, with proper engine and ailerons (will see what can I get, as somebody is about to bin some stuff) and after that - Sharkface MKII - twice bigger. So You don't have a choice Chris. We've got already some common SF, lets push it further and maybe improve project?? Bigger plane, bigger glow engine, no that big downthrust, ailerons, maybe UC??? I don't know about You, but I'm on it!!! Liberate my madness!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hi Tom, I think the FP10 would make the Sharky go like a rocket, I know it says up to a 1.5cc motor on the plan, but in 1965 the motors were a lot less powerful than they are these days and I recon a 049 Cox is about right for the standard Sharky. May be the best plan would be to take the plan to a copy shop and have it copied up to 30" span or even 36" then you could go 4 chancel, just keep the rudder and add ailerons. I recon it could still be hairy with the FP. I have an OS 10 so I might just do that or Ill get the plan for the Bazz Bomb which is 36" span and similar design, I've already ordered some 1964 Aeromodeller mags with the build article for the Bazz Bomb in one of them. Now I've finished the Matador I have to finish the Super 60 before starting on the new workshop so I won't have a lot of time for building models while I'm doing that, I'll still keep up to date on the forum though. Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Posted by Steve Hargreaves - Moderator on 18/05/2012 10:44:59: Chris I feel bad....I didn't expect you to rush out & buy all the Aeromodellers & share the Bazz Bomb plan with us lot.....you are too generous.....let us know what we owe you for the copies.... Hi Steve, I fancied em anyway as one has an engine test by Peter Chin on the Merco 61, I'll see how far the drawings will blow up when the mags arrive, If I'm lucky they just might br about right. I do fancy the Bazz Bomb though . Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 I meant to put OS to the bigger version of Sharky, not to the standard one. I've found some info, that .10FP could pull a plane with about 1m of wingspan and 1kg of weight. So 40 inch airframe would do, cause it will not get close to 1kg. Bazz Bomb looks good, somehow reminds me of Mini Tyro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Just got back from local park with my Sharky. I can't believe it, but first time I had a full flight till battery died in mid-air. Well, I flew it first time by myself! It was maidened by sdome other pilot in Blackburn, and since then, was just hanged on the wall. Absolutely amazing little thing. Battery is charging now, in about 30 mins I will get airborne again. What a fantastic feeling!!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Tom, Well done mate, it is a magic little airframe and designed so long ago. I recon your next step is another one with a small (049) Cox motor on the front ie Golden Bee or Black Widow. Theres no throttle on them and you fly full chat till the fuel runs out, mental but fun. First flights need the prop fitting backwards to reduce power, but from then on it's pure fun . I've just replied to your PM with details, enjoy . Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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