avtur Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 The aircraft is a De Havilland Hornet Moth G-ADND This was the very first aircraft to have landed on the airstrip which is now Manchester Airport. It is visiting to celebrate 75 years since that first landing. It is also rumoured to be paying a visit to Woodford as well ... Story and details are unfolding on various aviation forums on the web ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cantwell Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 it wont be paying a visit to woodford, airfield has no license, this means only service aircraft, army, navy, or airforce can land there, it can fly by, but no-ones there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avtur Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 Posted by Alan Cantwell on 14/05/2012 20:10:48: it wont be paying a visit to woodford, airfield has no license, this means only service aircraft, army, navy, or airforce can land there, it can fly by, but no-ones there I know its not licensed but there have been a couple of reported biz jet movements on 'spotters forums' so not sure what to make of that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cantwell Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 they can spot all they want, there are no facilities there for full size, including no fire cover, no refueling, aircraft movement on the airfield is nill, the control tower is also stripped, so no air to ground control, unless a fair amount of brass is spent, no civil aircraft will legally land there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alan Cantwell Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 they have, but its now the avro heritage centre, plans are afoot, deals are being done, what the future holds? who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avtur Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 Posted by Alan Cantwell on 14/05/2012 20:28:26: they can spot all they want, there are no facilities there for full size, including no fire cover, no refueling, aircraft movement on the airfield is nill, the control tower is also stripped, so no air to ground control, unless a fair amount of brass is spent, no civil aircraft will legally land there I understand what you are saying but there are several accounts of a Citation 525 arriving and departing last Thursday, even picures of it on the ground near threshold of 07. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lee Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 The Air Navigation Order (ANO) Article 208 requires that, in the UK, specified flights for the purpose of public transport or for the purpose of instruction in flying, take place only at a licensed aerodrome or a Government aerodrome. The grant of an aerodrome licence is governed by Articles 211 and 212. but outside of these purposes anyone can use an unlicenced airfield with the prior permission of the owner. I've flown dozens of times into umlicenced airfields and strips, accepting the risk of little or no fire cover and other facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cantwell Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 well, if what John says is right, no legalities are involved, and they do own a citation, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avtur Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 The aircraft in question is owned by a charter company based at Oxford, but as John says all that's required is airfield owners permission for it to land legally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area 51 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Its the landowners permission for any field to be used. We share our RC field with a designated farmers airstrip.. hardly ever used by private.. but we have had the odd twin and cessna, piper archer turn up...! quite exciting really as we only keep 100m cut so their take off run uses this and then goes back to long grass... I understand the Moth coming into Ringway is also carrying the son of the first pilot to fly one of this type in there.. The Airport is happy to use the event as nice PR stunt, it is also landing on the cross runway, 28/10 this has long since disused and not available to private or commercial traffic. Tony Bamford will be able to bring his Gulfstream and helicopters from East Midlands to Woodford any time he likes. With the landowners permission (his son owns Bae Woodford) the Woodford runway can remain active for as long as it remains serviceable.... Hand held transceivers can be used to communicate with airborne traffic and Ringway can provide ATC/Radar cover down to 100'.. Ringway's threshold is 3nm from Woodford and therefore it has ALWAYS provided the radar cover too.. any let down into, or departure from Woodford has always been controlled by Ringway as this air traffic conflicts with passenger movements at Ringway... During any Woodford Airshow, Ringway sent the staff over to assist with smooth operations of the air display whilst air traffic at Ringway operated without hinderance... One of the main reasons the Woodford airshow eventually died, was due to Ringways increasing passenger flights... Commercial aviation (revenue earning) is however a different matter they cannot use any airfield that is not licensed, freighters maybe... an empty Ryanair... yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avtur Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Apparantly the Hornet Moth is on the ground at Woodford now (Friday lunch time) not sure how many folks will get to see this lovely aircraft ... lucky for those that do see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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