Karl Anderson Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Hello All, I'm new to model flying and in assembling my trainer model I'm struggling to complete the bind process. I have a DX18QQ which is running the latest firmware from the Spektrum website. I've tried 2 x AR8000 Rx's and havent had any success with either. The arrangement is 2s 3000mah Lipo to a Turnigy regulator which offers the correct voltage and amps as far as I can tell. The Rx's with the bind plug in place starts up and begins flashing its orange LED as I'd expect. The problem is that I start up the transmitter, whilst holding the bind button down and the screen confirms it is attempting to bind, however the Rx simply doesn't alter the flashing LED at all. I've tried at varying distances and that has no effect. The wiring is all correct, with +, - and signal lead from the regulator in place. I've attempted removing the signal lead but this has no effect. I've attempted both DMSX and DSM2. I've attempted X-Plus Active and Inhibited. Always using 22ms Frame Rate. I'm sure this could be any number of problems, so any suggestions will be greatly received, prior to me contacting Spektrum Customer Services! Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee D 1 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Do you have a satellite RX connected to the AR8000? Also you say "I start up the transmitter, whilst holding the bind button down and the screen confirms it is attempting to bind". With my DX18QQ I'd already have the TX powered up, I'd select the bind menu and after the RX is powered up with the bind plug in I'd finally select Bind - No powering up whilst any buttons are depressed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 Yeah the two AR8000's have Satellites in place. I've tried both methods of holding the bind button down or selecting it from the menu system. No luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee D 1 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Umm..... I have AR8000's running with the 18QQ no problem. I sometimes have issues Binding in the garage (big metal doors). Try outdoors and get a good 6-10ft between the TX and RX (even better put yourself in between the TX and RX antennas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 Well thanks for confirming that they are compatible! That's one relief. I'll try the outdoors now... I've installed the firmware update and not really changed any settings... Bar inputting the models servo setup / wing etc. Does that sound usual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 Nope... The great outdoors and a decent 5m distance had no effect... 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee D 1 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Unplug any servo's or ESC's etc that maybe connected to the RX. Just have the power and the bind plug in the appropriate socket. Does the RX LED change flashing sequence during the bind attempt or is the 'flash' rate constant throughout never changing? Is the bind plug okay - I know its only a piece of wire between two pins but is it electrical sound -- try another bind plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 7, 2016 Author Share Posted August 7, 2016 Still struggling with this one if anyone has any suggestions? I've tried two AR8000's and two bind plugs... The rx seems to have correct power as I've tried plugging in the Telemetry TM1000 and it also enters bind mode but doesn't make a difference. I'm certain it must be a problem with the settings of the Tx but I'm unsure what to check / change? Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Hi Karl Have Tx switched off Remove all plugs from the Rx Insert the bind plug in the correct bind socket Insert the power supply to the Rx The Led flashes rapidly Hold the Tx bind button on, and switch on the Tx The Rx will go to a steady Led light. On Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 7, 2016 Author Share Posted August 7, 2016 Thanks Denis, All is correct until the turning on of the Tx which doesn't affect the Rx's LED's (they don't change). I'll try an alternative power source to check that, but at the moment is a 2S Lipo to Turnigy regulator (which is suitable for 7.4v even though it starts at 8v on the description **LINK**). Off to the local club as soon as I can arrange it so hopefully they'll help me out... Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I keep a regular 4 cell, 4.8volt nihm pack for binding And it works every time buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee D 1 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Might also be an idea to create a completely new model in the TX and try the bind again. Maybe you have something corrupt in the original model.... Edited By Lee D 1 on 08/08/2016 15:56:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cheal Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I have had this happen in the past. Despite checking my connections many times I had inserted the power lead in the wrong way round. I turned it 180 degrees and all worked fine It's worth a check!! Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.B. Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Does the light on the satellite Rx's come on? Does the TX say "Bind Complete" or "Bind failed"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 8, 2016 Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 The bond fails, and that's the message accordingly. Both the receiver and the satellite flashes, and the transmitter looks as though it's binding however it simply doesn't affect the flashing LED's of the Rx. I've definitely set the Tx to DSMX and not DSM2, and I've tried both frame rates to no avail... Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.B. Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Silly question, but are you sure the bind plug is in the right port? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Carpenter Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Hi. I take it your DX18 is new ? Are you sure it is putting out R F ? Is it suffering from Spekkie RF board failure even though it may be new ? I have known the new DX6 fail on the board soon after purchase . Just a thought . Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 8, 2016 Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 Yes, a bind plug in the correct port and the orange LED flashes quickly to confirm its in bind mode (on the Rx and Sat). The red LED only illuminates for a second as I connect the battery, then goes and stays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 8, 2016 Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 Hi Colin, It's a used Tx that was working... New to me and arrived in a hard case so it's unlikely to have been damaged in transportation. I'm unsure if there's anyway of checking whether it is actually putting out an RF signal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn R Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Try binding it to a DSM2 RX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.B. Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Posted by Karl Anderson on 08/08/2016 20:36:45: Hi Colin, It's a used Tx that was working... New to me and arrived in a hard case so it's unlikely to have been damaged in transportation. I'm unsure if there's anyway of checking whether it is actually putting out an RF signal? Not with out binding it or a frequency scanner. I'm stumped. Can you borrow another Tx and/or Rx and do some checking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Anderson Posted August 8, 2016 Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 I'm in touch with the local club so I'll have to beg for help there... Thanks for all your efforts... I'm really just confirming I'm not being stupid which at the minute it appears not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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