iawnski Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 hi all have a little prob with my taranis -plus.just bought a x8r eu for telemetry but cnt get it to bind ,I'm using a DJT telemetry module in the back and my old rx are VFR8nall work ok on this ,on the taranis inside moduleI can get D8 D16 LR12 but I have never used these always used the external DJT ,any help here be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy48 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 You need to use the internal module and make sure you have the EU firmware installed on your transmitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 The DJT should bind fine, but I imagine if you've been using V series RX's you'll have to change one of the wee switches on the back of the module - at least that's the way my old DFT module works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy48 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Pretty sure it won't bind with the EU receiver in D16 mode, and there's no new firmware available. As I said above its far simpler to update the Taranis firmware to the EU version, and use the internal module. Then any new receivers bought will bind without having to do anything more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Ah good point, I've never updated the FW in my DFT, and re-flash everything back to RoW spec too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andy Meade Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 They really are. I've been flying that combo for at least 2 years with a Futaba 10C before buying a Horus last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andy Meade Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Admittedly they may have changed the firmware if the X8R etc since, but I only ever downgraded the X series stuff to match my early DFT module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andy Meade Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Indeed, but my reply was about D series modules in general. Sorry if that was confusing. I was under the impression that the RF stages were the same in these two modules, with an extra IC in the Futaba version to cope with the different logic state and voltage on the PPM pin. Could be wrong though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Cotsford Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Andy Meade, are you using a jumper on the X8R channel pins when you bind them to the DJT/DFT module? If so that works because a jumper on ch 7 and 8 pins binds the rx in D8 mode. I'm with Andrew otherwise, I didn't think the D series modules put out D16 mode encoded signals. I'd definitely install the EU-LBT firmware and use the internal XJT module for use with X series receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 The D series modules transmit in either a one way (none telemetry) mode called V8, or a Two way (telemetry) mode called D8. X series receivers are compatible with D8 but you don't get all the bells and whistles such as 16 S.Bus channels and model match etc. If I remember correctly a jumper is needed on some pins to bind an X receiver in D8 mode? (At least with D8, there are no EU/LBT/FCC complications). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Christy Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 X series receivers can be bound to D series transmitters by jumping a couple of pins during the bind process. I believe this is legal, as the ERP of the downlink from the receiver plus the low media utilisation of the telemetry downlink brings the system under the ETSI medial utilisation requirements, but I stand to be corrected! However, to get the full X series telemetry on the Taranis requires the receiver to be bound in D16 mode, rather than the D8 mode used by D series transmitters. This also means that both the transmitter and receiver must be using the same firmware standard - be it EU or Rest Of The World. Whilst there is a module that does D16, you will only get the full features by using the internal module on the Taranis - unless you also bolt on one of FrSky's dahsboards, at which point the whole thing starts to become a bit unwieldy. It is also rather pointless given that the internal module does all that is required. Hope this helps! -- Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I think Andy48 suggested the best solution. Leave the module in V8 mode for the V8 receivers and update the internal module for use with this and future X8Rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 As above - the internal one sounds easiest! And yes pretty sure I jumpered the X series stuff when using a "D" module, which I don't miss at all on the Horus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iawnski Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 very interesting stuff here ,so I have decided to go with andy48 ,module v8 mode for my v rx, and update the internal module,,,so now who can do this for me as I haven't a clue how to do it if anyone knows let me no please .thank you all for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy48 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 See here: **LINK** Page 9 of "Reference Section 1 The Basics" goes through updating the firmware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iawnski Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 thanks for that andy ,still have no idea how to update the internal module ,will have to wait and see if someone can sort it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy48 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Oops, sorry, that reference was for updating OpenTX. To update the internal module, see the "How to" section pages 3-5. Edited By Andy48 on 17/05/2017 17:03:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 iawnski, do we know the OpenTx software version on your Taranis? To check if you have the facility, hold the rudder and aileron trims inward while you switch on, is one of the options you see called - "Write firmware" ? If that is there then to update your internal requires just a few steps. 1) Download the appropriate firmware from the FrSky website. We can help you with which one. 2) Unzip that file so that you have the unzipped version on your PC. 3) Copy the unzipped file to the folder "firmwares" on your Taranis SD card. 4) Run the "Write firmware" - choosing the appropriate options. It is all in Andy48's handbook. As he's said, it's in Reference Section 4, How to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iawnski Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 yes andy chris write firmware is there, what about the part that says to get a cable for the rxs, if I dnt have any rxs yet do I just forget that bit,i have the early v1 rx on my module in the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 If you've bought an EU X8R then you won't need to update that, so you don't need a cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iawnski Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 you no what this is doing my head in ,is there anyone here or anywere I can send it off to get the tx updated ,as I have lost the will to live , grrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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