Peewhit Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hi folks,Have finally got around to rebuiding my Chriss Foss Middle-phase as it was a damn good plane until I pranged it doing a bunt too close to the hill.Have two aileron servos as I would like to set it up with flaperon mixing.Controls are maxed with elevator 3/8" up and down, and ailerons 1/2" up and 3/8" down.Does anyone have an idea as to what aileron movement to set as flaperons coupled to elevator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Peter Don't know if it helps but going back to my control line stunt days the flaps were adjusted to move 30 % of elevator movement .Mind you they literally looped on a sixpence ! Sorry = I meant 2 1/2 P piece Showing my age again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewhit Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Thanks Myron,For my Bedlam, the recommendation is for half of elevator movement so it looks as if your control line hint is in the right area - mind, Stan Yeo works in metric and Chris Foss works in imperial!Couln't quite get my control line models to look on a 2 1/2p piece but I did manage it on a threepenny bit once!Whaytever did happen to the farthing - the coin with the robin on the back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Peter Do you mean your loops had 8 sides I vaguely remember a farthing . 'twas part of my first bicycle The other bit was a penny No I'm not that old yet but was born at a very early age !PS Whats this talk of "Metric" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewhit Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Myron,It's the metric bit I don't understad about my Bedlam - something about modelmaniacs (mm) - maybe that's why it flies so well!I too was born at a very early age - coincidence or what - and my first "bicycle" was a cast iron trike with pedals attached to the front wheel - bit like your farthing-penny thing.In fear of getting kicked off this forum for digressing, I think I will ste up the Middle-phase with about 3/16" aileron movement, then see if I can do an eight sided loop - will keep clear of bunts for a while though have now learned that they are easier to do with the wind!Will also try a cuban eight with one big loop and one small one - just to remember your first bicycle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Satinet Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 try 3mm as a starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewhit Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Thanks Tom,This reminds me somewhat of my Bedlam build which, thanks to your help, went very well.What is 3 model maniacs in English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Peter 3 mm is not quite an accurate measure .but our 1/8 of an inch is the nearest you can get to it for practical purposes =So its 1/8 of the width of your thumb -a very time honoured useful distance to use Or a 1/32 of the width of your hand & so on & soforth .AAh Memories ( all English ! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Claridge Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 i spent 40 farthings on the last day they were legal currentcy bought 40 blackjacks remember them.the shopkeeper was not amused ps im only 59. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewhit Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 Thanks Myron,Have now drawn seven little lines on my thumb to divide its width into eight.Can't count to 32 so fell short of drawing on my hand.The thumb measurement seems to work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Satinet Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 not sure how much 3mm is in rods poles and perches but i suspect about 1/8th as stated. whether the MP wing will respond well to snap flap remains to be seen. but i would set my amount at the wing rather than as a percentage of how much the elevator is moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewhit Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 OK so it's 1/8 of a thumb width for flaperons. What about elevator compensation when ailerons are set as spoilerons (both up)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Satinet Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 try it 1st and see which way the nose goes. If you think about it the nose should pitch downwards. Landing on spoilerons usually requires an increased angle of attack (which you probably already know). The model does land well without any outside help, as I'm sure you've discovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewhit Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hi folks,Finally managed to fly my rebuit Middlephase today.Didn't risk it last weekend as the wind was touching 30mph.Today it was 40mph on the North York Moors and I thought what the hell!Without any ballast at all, it flew like a baby in that wind - steady and sure.The snap flaps worked well at 3mm and it would loop on a sixpence - oops, I think this is where the thread started!Also flew my Bedlam with 8oz of lead in the fuz - what a superb and fast machine that is!I think that Santa is going to bring me a Multiplex Buzzard for Xmas - can't wait to get that in the air! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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