Basil Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) HI, can anybody direct me to the thread that gives the formulea for this mix. I have read alot about it but cant find it.Thanks. Mgc6969 refers to his build and the use of it, but cant find the build in question. Bas Edited February 5 by Basil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Gay Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) Copied from the original post by McG 6969 in April 2016 Bella Ballerina HD thread Freddie B's Secret Sauce... I did mention it earlier, but in fact it isn’t such a big secret, as Freddie B - an American foamie guru - himself talked about it in an earlier RCgroup’s thread. While many have been amazed by Fred’s finished airframes, this was the process he used. Basically, it’s a filler & primer coat (all-in-one) that doesn't weigh much but seems to work really well. He does this on his foam builds often when there is no covering, lamination or other coating involved. Here are some photos to help 'show and tell' in case some of you want to try this. Let’s have it in sequence. 1). Take some light weight filler (Polyfilla One Fill or a cellulose based filler, I use Red Devil OneTime) and put a nice size plug in a little mixing bowl. In my testcase, the plug of filler is about the size of a nut. /sites/3/images/member_albums/140450/670209.jpg 2). Next add some Polycrylic clear varnish (water based of course), about the same volume as the plug of filler. /sites/3/images/member_albums/140450/670210.jpg 3). Get some Talc Powder. Baby Powder or Foot Powder, but the Baby kind smells best…Talc is very fine and does a great job of getting those tiny imperfections filled, but sands away nicely. Note the 'pile' of powder - the Mods shouldn’t be worried, this is ‘real genuine’ talc powder - about equals the volume of the light filler we used too. /sites/3/images/member_albums/140450/670211.jpg 4). Add two or three drops of acrylic paint (craft paint, water based or airbrush acrylics), I used ‘Raw Sienna’ here for better picture contrast. It can be white paint of course, but it’s easier with a colour to see the work in process and the finished results shows up better. Anyway, use a colour that works for your intended top coat. Light for light topcoats, gray for everything else. You can use Yellow in the primer if you are painting Yellow top coats, because Yellow - and Reds - don't always cover well. /sites/3/images/member_albums/140450/670212.jpg 5). Now mix it well. It is very thick, but get it creamy and all one colour and texture, working out any chunks. /sites/3/images/member_albums/140450/670214.jpg 6). Add water until it is like very thin whipping cream, thin shaving cream, or even thinner like a very thick paint. Brush this on your pre-sanded foam, making sure to completely wet everything and force the mixture into any hollows, dings, scratches, etc. /sites/3/images/member_albums/140450/670213.jpg Let this dry. Then sand it all with some 180 grit or 220 grit papers, mounted to some sheets of laminated white foam. I use plaster wall hard foam sponges. The foam sanding blocks are flat, but 'give enough' to not cause grooves nor scoring. Just make sure to remove sanding dust often and use a reasonable pressure while sanding. When you have sanded most of this formula away, you will see some original foam, but also many areas of filled and flush mixture and the surface will be very smooth. Little weight gain, yet ready for top coating with paint. You can sand with even finer papers, depending on what top coat paint you will be using. This is good enough using craft paints, but if like Fred, you intend to spray with Vallejo, Model Master or Tamya paints, you could go to 320 or 400 grit paper. All four kinds of paint seem to work well with this process. I’m truly convinced by Fred’s method and believe it’s really worth trying this out on a piece of scrap foam or Depron. I intend to test my ‘Raw Sienna’ mixture and will report here later on. … sjeesh… this was quite a long one… comments welcome, of course... Hakuna matata Chris BRU - BE / CTR Raw Sienna Control Edited By McG 6969 on 26/04/2016 20:46:06 Edited February 5 by Martin Gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 Many thanks Martin.A bit comlicated at first site, will have to have a study. Bas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Gay Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Not really complicated. It is simply a mix of equal volumes of lightweight filler, water based varnish and talcum powder. The colour is added as an aid to sanding. Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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