Andy Freeman Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Been playing with my new (to me) moulded toy. Have managed to set up everything except for CROW braking. None of the control surfaces react to the throttle no matter what i do? I have the manual and think i am following the instructions. Has anyone got any words of wisdom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Fisher Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Are you sure you are in the glider program and not the acro program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iawnski Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 only took me 3hrs to sort it on mine still dont no how i did it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Gates Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Andy Would you care to tell us what you have set on your radio except for the CROW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Freeman Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 Gents, 100% set up as a glider not acro. I have set up the flaps at 50% of the ailerons. Aileron differential. Thermal and speed settings. Coupled the rudder to the Ailerons. The crow still eludes me...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Gates Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Are the flaps separate control surfaces or are you using flaperons (Flap / Ailerons combined)? I assume the former is the case from your previous comment but I am just making sure. As I understand it, the ailerons go up, the flaps down and the elvator is mixed in to control pitch changes. On my FF8 it is called butterfly (abv. Bfly on my Tx). Could it be you throttle stick setup is incorrect or the switch assignment is incorrect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Butler Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Andy, I had exactly the same problem with my FF9 - it didn't matter what I tried, the crow braking would not work so I gave up in disgust. There are three glider modes, which one are you using? I must admit that the manual is probably more of a hinderance than a help. I managed the thermal and speed settings too but don't ask me how. If you do manage it please let me know. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Freeman Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Been away for a week and bit. Not had the chance to fiddle any further. Will report back as soon as able.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrico Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Any luck with sorting out the crow braking on that FF9 yet? If not, maybe I will sell you my trusty JRPCM9 (at a price, haha). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Freeman Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 Not had the chance to try yet Enrico........Been fixing up the "black pudding" Jart...Its ready to fly again now...... Looks quite nice now (i think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Freeman Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Gentlemen, we now have CROW braking. It was not that obvious to get it working though. The gist of it is: CROW is permanently assigned to switch A.. You need to have switch A down for it to work even in you have set up everything else. If anyone needs a more thorough description please ask........ Now all i need are the control throws for a "ruby".... can anyone help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 andy---craig and enrico have had there heads together today...i believe that they have had some success(yes it's true)...unbelievable i know -but true.....give them a shout they may assist you............ ken anderson............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Freeman Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 Ken, CROW is working all i need is some kind person to give me some control throws and then the "laughing assassin" can maiden it for me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Carr Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Andy, You should have been round to my Gaff yesterday.!!! I was struggling like you to set up my FF9 for this sort of thing on my new 2m highlight. Enrico popped round. After a lot of head scratching, cups of tea, trial and error, we've got all manor of mixes set up for the highlight.. Crow, butterfly, linked aileron/flap (sort of makes the flaps work in unison with the ailerons for extra turning)..... Flaps are linked to the throttle. This model now has more switches and programs than a 747!!!! Hope I remember them all in flight or will happen............... followed by Edited By Craig Carr on 03/02/2010 17:01:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Freeman Posted February 6, 2010 Author Share Posted February 6, 2010 Craig, It does indeed look like it might be a minefield on the switch front. I had everything set up including, i thought, CROW. All I needed to do was to press switch A into the down position to activate it. Nowhere does it tell you that in the menu or, as far as I could see, in the manual. Just need a nice day for the maiden now,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Dowsett Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Only just found this thread. Sorry could have helped with FF9 crowing as I have been using it for a long time. Thought I had better update you all with a problem you may not have encountered yet. Crow, or butterfly, operates with SW-A and 'throttle' stick movements. I set the stick position at which crow begins to operate as 80%. The trouble starts if you adjust elevator trim. Crow is not supposed to be active with the stick further forward than 80% but the elevator trim part of crow is. As a pre-flight check I put crow full on and check the elevator moves down about - 3 degrees. It's adjustable from the crow menu or the elevator trim buttons. Think about that for a moment. What if you are flying normally and decide to add a bit of up trim but SW-A is ON. There is no normal elevator trim response because the "throttle stick" says no crow. The natural pilot action is to try more up trim. The next action could be slam crow on DON'T! The cumulative up trim will been crowed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 A bit late. Have a look HERE on RCMF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Dowsett Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Thanks Gonzo. The RCMF post suggests a method of using crow but retaining throttle on an electric glider. I doubt this will cure the cumulative elevator trim problem. In fact it could make it a lot more serious. It took me 40 flights to realise the problem - an unintended tailslide on approach and a broken fuselage! The only way of avoiding the problem is to treat normal, crow, start ofs and speed ofs as completely seperate flight phases which is not easy with so many flick switches and always to check the crow elevator trim offset on full crow at preflight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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