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no no no .did i say one transmitter??? you are trying to put words in my mouth........i can see i'm wasting my time here it strike's me whatever i say or whatever evidence i produce noone is listening have it your own way......buy futaba if your worried this IS my last words take it or leave it, believe what you want BUT for the foreseeable future DSM2 and JR with it are here to stay; HH (horizon HOBBES) Own Spektrum they own the patent to DSM2 they can basically do with it what they will, they are also the biggest distributor in the USA and JR's biggest customer which is by far a much bigger market than herein Europe. when 2.4ghz came out JR were caught with their pants down so they agreed to provide casings to Spektrum for a slice of Spektrums cake (share of the technology) so JR/Spektrum agreement was Spektrum would make lower end transmitters JR would make high end BUT in Japan DSM2 is not legal so JR made DSMJ (now DMSS)a channel hopping system for the Japanese market only. now this short term agreement has ended so it seems.      now what i glean from JR's statement is they will now produce mid and low end transmitters on their DMSS system and WILL continue to produce and support DSM2 on their high end gear  meaning they can now re-enter the low/mid range market again on their own backs because they have now developed their own technology for areas (markets) where they cannot use DSM2 ie. 7 channel systems and below because i would assume Spektrum will not let them use the DSM2 system on the low end market thus protecting Spektrums market.  Edited By nasa_steve on 25/10/2010 20:07:55

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I suspect it is purely down to Spektrums ownership of the DSM2 patent. Also a clever marketing ploy by JR in essence who would pay top dollar for a JR set when a Spektrum will do the same for less so it would be better to Market their own product which avoids the problem of expensive patent purchase hence DMSS. But I do tend to believe what their statement says that they intend to keep producing and marketing DSM2 in their high end radio. Leaving them to produce DMSS for their mid range and Japanese Market. Steve

hi colin      not sure what you want me to say this statement IS from JR and i draw your attention to these two paragraph's JR remains committed to future development with DSM technologies and to our customers who currently own JR equipment using the DSM standard. JR will continue to manufacture, sell, and support DSM equipment in all markets currently allowed by agreement. It is our goal that this communication clears up any questions about JR’s intentions and that JR remains confident in and committed to the future of DSM technology around the world.     im not sure what more i can say that will alleiviate your fear!! Edited By nasa_steve on 23/10/2010 17:42:25

 hi david   I don't disagree you maybe correct but it seems JR are indeed honouring the agreement that they would not release a mid range system on DSM2 or indeed because Spektrum own the patent on the DSM2 system as it stands JR are not allowed to use that system in their own radios as such which is what i read from this part of the statement " This system uses a technology that is incompatible with DSM2 in order to meet a market need where DSM2 is not available to JR." it appears Spektrum were the ones who broke the agreement first by releasing the DX8 so it seems from my readings of the lenghty thread on another forum one which HH have got involved in as well   i would hazard a guess that 7 channel and below will probably be on the same channel hopping system that the XG7 has steve Edited By nasa_steve on 23/10/2010 16:37:04

hi colin     and the anyone concerned about buying into DSM2 or indeed JR here is a post from another forum direct from JR them selves To Our Valued JR Customers: During the recent BMFA Nationals, a new JR 7 channel radio system using DMSS was shown by our UK distributor. This system uses a technology that is incompatible with DSM2 in order to meet a market need where DSM2 is not available to JR. Unfortunately, several individuals made statements that JR finds very misleading and require correction. JR remains committed to future development with DSM technologies and to our customers who currently own JR equipment using the DSM standard. JR will continue to manufacture, sell, and support DSM equipment in all markets currently allowed by agreement. It is our goal that this communication clears up any questions about JR’s intentions and that JR remains confident in and committed to the future of DSM technology around the world. We thank you for your continued support. Kind regards Mooney Takamura. International Sales Manager JR PropoEdited By nasa_steve on 23/10/2010 11:40:20

Not true I'm afraid !!!!! JR have bought out a frequency hopping system because they want a slice of the 7 ch mid range Market something they cannot have with DSM2 due to their agreement with Spektrum so..... They have released their own system hence the XG7

Posted by Tony Read 2 on 21/09/2010 13:16:13: Forgot about the mini Mustang (was it a 75% Titan T51???). Flew well indeed. What was the weather like on the Sunday?   it was 7/8ths scale if thats any help

I'm pretty sure the BBC would have thought about FAA and indeed any CAA regulation long before they even filled the balloon with Helium, it always amazes me how some people rather than congratulating someone for such a task are quick to remind them of the implications of their actions " the fun police strike again eh!!!" the mind boggles do these people have nothing better to do than berate someones achievement ??

hi all     setup is as follows   HET 2w-20 motor    80 amp ESC   2x Hitec HS125MG servos.    1 x Graupner 4.7x4.7 camprop     1x 3000mah 40c 4s lipo     static 84amps around 1200watts     a mate of mine with an  identical setup has run it through a radar trap at 150mph+  with a rocket motor fitted they can top 200mph, but i find the 150mph enough on a small fieldsteve

Personally I would fit an Eflite 46 on either 4 or 5s it depends what you'd like to do after the trainer but that setup will work coupled to a 60amp esc and you'd be in business. Nasa

i stopped going a couple of years ago for reasons i won't discuss here but to all those that are going have a good weekendnasa_steve

1. Al's hobbies2. BRC Hobbies 3. Seagull Sparrowhawk 62cc 4. Horizon Hobbies nasa_steve

thatll be because is fly by wire and the butterfly knows the wing is missing and is able to compensate for it............. bet you couldnt do it unless you were in the plane?

Posted by Allan Bowker on 14/07/2010 10:32:50: Have I got this right? Two servos for the ailerons (one servo per aileron / one servo in each wing)and Spektrum AR500 receiver  The AR500 has a Y-Lead built into it and may be causing your problem.Remove the Y-Lead that you have installed and plug both servo's directly into the AR500. (You will notice that there are 2 ports on the receiver marked AIL) The left aileron should go in the port nearest the battery port and the right aileron in the far side port marked AIL.       Edited By Allan Bowker on 14/07/2010 10:37:58 IIRC this is the opposite to the way JR(on which the spectrum software is based) have always said to do it according to my Tranny its Right aileron in port 2 and then Left aileron in port 6 as it is on all the programming sequences on JR based equipment.     although on the AR500 as you rightly point out the receiver has a built in Y lead in effect BUT i wouldnt change the way i and JR suggest you plug them innasa

Hamish I feel you are grabbing at straws with regards to the poor eyesight remark I fly some large ish models and it's certainly nit because I can't see very well it's because I "can" and because I like the more natural feel of larger models like I say and I stand by my remark it "seems to ME" a little OTT to leave a field like the other guys have reitorated JUST because someone has a "big" model out. The yak that this post speaks of didn't have a "strimmer" engine it was electric and the engine that would be fitted to that particular model would certainly not be derived from a strimmer....... I wonder if you would do the same IF someone turned up with a 200mph voodoo for instance or would you consider that ok because it's a "small" model as such you could rest assured one of these at 200 mph would probably boast the same kinetic energy as a large aerobat flying at 3d speeds for instance Edited By nasa_steve on 29/05/2010 02:40:33 Edited By nasa_steve on 29/05/2010 02:54:01

Hamish .........."those big models" are in most cases lighter than the average 120 class model. But as you say that's your choice entirely. But it seems a little OTT to leave the field I thinkEdited By nasa_steve on 23/05/2010 01:02:50

yes i'll be there david not sure if i should take the P47 what do you think or should i take the panic???steve

yes i've fitted a double clunk system to a petrol model and glow at some point the only thing to be careful of is making sure that the clunks dont twist together normally a length of brass tube on each inside the tank helps nasa

Hi all Just a quick update the new module case is very well thought out it fits a treat and also means I can leave the module on in the my Jr case NASA

Posted by Chris Channon on 03/03/2010 17:43:41: Hi all, I am an engine person, ie i like my two strokes and four strokes, i love the setting up, making them as reliable as poss but i also like the electric side of the hobby. It is so easy just to put in a charged battery and fly, no setting up, no hint of an engine cut ( though if a glow engine ( why have we started calling them Nitro power ? ) is set up correctly then this is in itself rare ) and just the fact that one can turn up and fly, superb !!!   BUT, there had to be a but, i do get really fed up with electric flyers doing nothing but hovering over the strip, end over end looping, and when it is time to " land " it gets plonked down without even so much as a "Landing" call, so if i am flying an IC model suddenly there are people on the strip, not good.   I think in our club ( Gosport Model Flyers ) there must be a good 50-50 split between electric and IC, i just wish that the same approach ( forgive the pun ) to landing and take off was applied to IC and electric the same.   Regards as always Chris C WE have'nt its the rc car boys i thought and even then half of them call it petrol LOL how little some know eh!!         last time i was at a show it was the IC boys doing what you described so i suppose it takes all sorts

i belong to 2 clubs and we tolerate IC flyers they are a menace with their oil spuing smelly power systems its outrageous what us clean living MODERN electric flyers have to put up with and the abuse the smellies give us is outragous     i cannot believe the pretencious biggotry some of these so called IC modelers spout " Tolerate" indeed do they think they are superior in some way to electric flyers LOL. i will never understand the issue these guys have i fly both electric and petrol and i have in the past flown IC glow but it amazes me how many people say "well electric isn't real modelling is it" what makes these people think it is any different than ic power except ic makes more noise in some cases, cover's the model in crud and makes the car smell funky after its dripped from the exhaust into the boot. and like electric does'nt sound anything like the real thing!!nasa  Edited By nasa_steve on 03/03/2010 17:12:58

hi guys       just to keep you in the picture here's the link to the horizon instruction manual for the casing change on the spektrum JR module casing  module case nasa

Posted by nasa_steve on 01/03/2010 18:46:01: Posted by Biggles' Elder Brother on 01/03/2010 00:25:19: Hi Steve,   generally I would agree with you. Reading Timbo's description I would have usually said he was "self taught". But....in the context of this survey it was probably appropritate for him to describe himself as "instructed". This is because, if you think about it, even a very few "lessons" would interfere with the mode choice as its almost the first thing you do. This would then prevent it from being truely random, influencing it one way or the other. The fact that Timbo hales from the West Midlands, which is an area in which Mode 1 is popular, and he does indeed fly mode 1 would tend to bear this out. Not conclusive of course - but consistent.   The original reason for asking the question was to see if there was any evidence that totally self-taught fliers exhibited a random mode distribution, or if there was indeed any evidence of a "natural" mode amongst them. Either of these could be concluded from the evidence we have gathered. For this to work it really should have been made clearer by me at the outset that any instruction - no matter how little - would mean you would have to go into the "instructed" camp.   BEB  aha i'm not trying to cause an issue just looking at the question objectively, but did timbo not take a model to the field ready to fly if so he had already made his mode choice if he had gone to the field prior to building a model and buying radio gear then yes that could hinder the mode choice of course.......i used to do RC cars and i'm right handed so natural mode for me is mode 2, the guy that took off for me on my very first flight because that was it after that i did it myself, did not influence my decision as to which mode to go for ,but i consider myself to be self taught. nasa  

Posted by Biggles' Elder Brother on 01/03/2010 00:25:19: Hi Steve,   generally I would agree with you. Reading Timbo's description I would have usually said he was "self taught". But....in the context of this survey it was probably appropritate for him to describe himself as "instructed". This is because, if you think about it, even a very few "lessons" would interfere with the mode choice as its almost the first thing you do. This would then prevent it from being truely random, influencing it one way or the other. The fact that Timbo hales from the West Midlands, which is an area in which Mode 1 is popular, and he does indeed fly mode 1 would tend to bear this out. Not conclusive of course - but consistent.   The original reason for asking the question was to see if there was any evidence that totally self-taught fliers exhibited a random mode distribution, or if there was indeed any evidence of a "natural" mode amongst them. Either of these could be concluded from the evidence we have gathered. For this to work it really should have been made clearer by me at the outset that any instruction - no matter how little - would mean you would have to go into the "instructed" camp.   BEB  aha i'm not trying to cause an issue just looking at the question objectively, but did timbo not take a model to the field ready to fly if so he had already made his mode choice if he had gone to the field prior to building a model and buying radio gear then yes that could hinder the mode choice of course.......i used to do RC cars and i'm right handed so natural mode for me is mode 2. nasa