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2017 Mass Build
Rosco replied to john stones 1 - Moderator's topic in Building from Traditional Kits and Plans
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Thanks Mr Miller, I wasn't sure because I know I mention weight all the time. I don't mean to sound obsessive about it. It is just something for Chris to keep in mind.
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Looks good Chris. The stringer detail looks good. Question for you..........What's going in the rectangular hole at the back? Now....... Some may suggest that 'I' have been getting in your ear about weight and it may come across as being obsessive?...... Perhaps the comment was not about my views?..... I don't really know where that stick was pointed but anyway........... I really don't have a problem with what you do with 'your' model. Add as much detail or as many accessories as you want, it does not affect me in any way shape or form. I choose to build my models as light as possible for varying reasons. One reason is because I am restricted to powertrain limits and battery sizes. Anyway...........continue on with the fine work
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Or from across the pond...... "Nice one mate". .... that's what I'd say anyway.... Even down here in OZ, we have different accents in each state! Anyway.... continuing on with Chris's build...... The Bella is looking good. I've never covered a foamboard model with anything, they've just been acrylic painted. I've even got an airbrush but never used it for my models! I've always brushed the paint on. I did once use some signwriting vinyl but found it was quite heavy so I took it off. Even painting with the acrylic paint on my Ballerina added 30g's of weight (I think!). I'd try and keep the covering/painting simple. Yes, I know. I've gone on about weight again but you will understand where I'm coming from one day!! Rosco
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I got the joke John Rosco
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Both of what you have said Chris! There is nothing wrong with the method as it will do the job but with the small amount of play in the hinge that is needed to keep it loose and flexible, you will notice that on the side you attach the horn and linkage, there will be a small amount of twist. I just thought that with your meticulous building, that you might not be happy and having a solid mechanical hinge system might have satisfied your style. It will still work, and do the job so please continue on with it. It is coming along nicely. Rosco
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That's the way I do my hinges Chris. Exactly the same as a matter of fact!.....one warning though... The 'moving' surface can sometimes twist at the location of the horn. It's a bit hard to explain but basically your two surfaces will not quite sit 'flush' and I don't think you will like it, based the way you have taken on the rest of your build. Rosco
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I agree, the 'extension' looks better and also that your solution was well thought out, as simple as the mistake was. It always amazes me how many times a simple solution is overlooked because the builder is too overwhelmed with the mistake. Nice work Chris, it's looking good. RoscoEdited By Rosco on 02/09/2016 03:28:29
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I know what you are talking about. You did mention it somewhere about slightly modifying the LE of the vertical stab. to have a slightly curved profile. Correct? Anyway....back to YOUR build.... Rosco
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Funny thing is Chris, as I mentioned, I'm a bit like you seem to be. I enjoy 'having a go' at things. I have a background in repair/fabrication/modification (metal) and have been able to apply my trade in a smaller scale to this hobby. I get a great deal of satisfaction from it, probably like you. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box and more to the point, applying it! Rosco
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Yes. You are correct about the Trojan's tail and the Zero's canopy. The actual Parkzone Trojan model is actually a very very good model to fly, so much so that I would even suggest that maybe you should consider one for your first taste of flight in rc! It is a very stable and predictable model and can be flown very sedately or taken further for some aerobatics that can be thrown into the mix once comfortable with it. I didn't exactly learn to fly with mine but it has played a big part in my learning and was my 'workhorse' model that I took flying everytime. I say 'was 'because I had many 'dumb thumb' (although I'm a pincher on the sticks) moments with it, pushing it beyond my limits occasionally and it was starting to look a bit worse for wear so I figured after so many fix ups, it was time for a change. It very loosely resembled a Zero in my eye so that's why it got a Zero scheme. So to give you an answer to your observations - yes, I added some foam and removed some foam to give the tail the close resemblance to a Zero's and the canopy just has some extra lines added to it, the shape of it is still the same. I really didn't want to mess with it too much because the original model was such a great flyer. There are some other slight mods I have done but they are minor aesthetic changes and apart from turning the undercarriage from a tricycle configuration to a tail dragging one the model pretty much has stayed the same (I added flaps to it too but that was before its facelift). Like I say, it's not a scale model but enough to look like a Zero when it's up there. What will be completely out of the box is when I mod it put the EDF set up in it down the track!!!! Rosco
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For you Chris......the Zojan........(it is not a scale model)........... Rosco
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Pffft......you guys! I suppose I can't compare but down here in OZ, it's quite common for us to have heatwaves of 35oC+ for days on end with night time temps staying in the very high 20oC's. What we don't get down here in South Oz is snow (there might be a morning or two up in the Adelaide foothills with some very, very light snow but it would not even compare to you guys out there, it literally melts before it hits the ground!)..... @Chris, I'd like to post a pic of my Zero project but I've not been near my home PC since I told you about it. Unfortunately I cannot post pics from my phone either (does this site have a mobile friendly version?), so you'll have to hang on fora little while longer. I'd rather be building in the heat than cold personally! Rosco
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My other project is nothing fancy. It's a modification of another foam model of mine. I call it the Zojan. I'll post a pic when I get a chance. It's basically a Parkzone T28D Trojan that I've turned into Zero. Rosco
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I'm still here Chris, I've just been a bit busy with work and another modelling project. Wow.....you are correct. There is dust on something at last, even if it's not a model part! Keep it up my friend. It looks to be slowly coming together. Rosco
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I'm interested to see your tail build too. I'm not sure why you'd want to have a removable tail but it's your build Chris so you can do what you like! The tail us a pretty critical part of the model....stating the obvious I know..... but to have it removable allows for it to be in a different orientation each time you put it on. It might be extremely minimal but if you watch how far a control surface moves everytime a trim switch is clicked and note the difference in flight,then you'll know what I mean - very small movements on the control surface makes a big difference to the model in flight. I guess what I'm saying is that it would be better to have a tail that permanently stays in the same spot. Yes, it is only the rudder and elevator that are 'trimmed' but if the entire surface is moved ever so slightly each time then it will forever have to be 'trimmed' during flight. Am I making sense? Sorry Chris but again,another thing to consider is weight. It really will make a big difference at the tail end. Be careful about over engineering it my friend. Rosco
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Im not a member of a club but have permission to fly from a public area by the council. In our case, the irony is that we were asked to fly from another area in the park because our >1.5kg foam models, flown nowhere near the public on a separate section, may cause an injury to someone by 70+kg cyclists riding around the very same area at 40+Kmh with the same public walking on the same track as them. I do see the requirement for separation as being necessary but I'm not into 3D helis, and I do think they are dangerous. They can move pretty quick. After a public servey was conducted by the council, there were more complaints about the cyclists than we had against us with our models. Infact we had none! Edited By Rosco on 10/08/2016 08:38:27
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Not looking too bad Chris but I can't really comment on the weight. As my version was smaller and not built from balsa etc. I have no idea if you are on target (I can't remember what Mr Miller had on his plans?) for what the AUW weight is supposed to be but to be honest, at 1.3kgs, without wings and tail, I think it is possibly a little bit heavy however, as you have noted, that weight includes your flight battery so you might be ok. Preferably, someone who has built the model as per the original design might be better of commenting on the weight so far. Apart from that, it looks to be slowly coming along. I'm looking forwards to how you are going to tackle the wing build part. Rosco Edited By Rosco on 10/08/2016 07:02:02
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Even Experienced Modellers Can Make Beginners' Mistakes.
Rosco replied to David Davis's topic in Incident Reports
My story isn't as glorious as some of the others but........... ......quite a few times I've pulled the stick the wrong way after flying too many circuits inverted! I try to make a mental note when I first 'invert' but sometimes after I do a few inverted circuits, I get so into the mindset of being inverted that I pull down instead of pushing up without even thinking about it! -
Ted, I'm glad to hear it is working itself out despite the unfortunate incident that started it all. I've no intention of hijacking your thread Ted but I was following it in its earlier stages and felt the need to mention something...... As a firefighter myself, one message that we try to convey to the public which is just as important as having a working smoke alarm is to have a 'home fire escape plan'. As obvious as it sounds, you would be surprised at how many people cannot or have difficulty finding a way out of their very own house during a fire, especially if it is in its more developed stages. Hence the reason for having a smoke alarm to alert you before its too late, therefore having an escape plan is just as important as having a working alarm. Did you know that you do not have a sense of smell whilst sleeping? Rosco
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Absolutely agree with the others. Mighty fine work there Chris. It's starting to come alive now. Very nice mate. Rosco
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Looks good Chris. I must admit, I'm impressed by your ability (and patience) to do things like that. I really don't have the time to spend making things like you have so therefore if I'm trying to achieve something in particular, I tend to be a bit lazy and find something that is already similar. eg. If I was doing an exhaust like you, I'd either make it out of balsa (less time consuming) or find something that had a plastic spout or similar, and use that! Keep up your good work Rosco
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Prop ballancer which one to buy.
Rosco replied to christopher small's topic in All Things Model Flying
I would highly recommend the Du-bro one. I've used it on my props and my EDF's, and never had a problem. I use small bits of pvc tape on the back of my props. Before anyone says it....I've never had a piece of tape come off. For my EDF's I use the tape rolled into small 'balls' and then CA to hold it in the hub. RoscoEdited By Rosco on 22/07/2016 22:24:26
