Peter Robinson 9

Hi Just been reading this forum has anyone thought about with location tracking that the CAA/police could fine people (by post?) for infringing e.g height regulations or going out of a certain area because of the model being tracked? These settings could be set by a central control centre. Just a thought. Pete

Hi just seen this on bbc website police have taken no action. its pretty obvious what rules have been broken. See what happens after november. **LINK**

Yes I totally agree see what happens (hold back), chance to build those models you always wished for. But going on past history with the govermant and their computer systems I think they will be a delay in getting the system up and running.

Hi Thank you for the reply Alan thats made it clearer, if you are a owner and do not fly no need to register, but as soon you intend to fly say 6 months after you have finished the model you need to register the model and carry id number. My position I will be unable to fly over winter this year due to commitments so I do not need to worry about registration until I start flying again next year. Is this correct?

Hi I believe down here (kent) they are not police (but still not sure) I believe contracted by the police to operate the cameras, I need to look at it more closely, but what I have seen the vans look like police vans but have on the side something like 'road safety enforcement' and what I have heard run by civillians. Edited By Peter Robinson 9 on 07/08/2019 14:31:39

Hi peter Thats the way I look at it, its the actual flight is were the offence or no offence lies. We could end up with a car load of models and been arrested for possession because they are not registered. Hmmm I will wait for more detail which I doubt will not happen and the authorities will not know what to do legally. I also will suspect that the enforcers will be a private company working on behalf of the caa and the police will have nothing to do with it, like traffic wardens and police speed traps all private companies.

ok Must not dust any of my models, Looks like from the question Q501 that to fly you have be registered to comply with the rules(thats ok no problem with that) but sitting on the ground stationery un-registerd will this be allowed ? I cant see you been arrested for displaying a model. Maybe we need some more clarification . Peter

Hi Alan Ok, Hmmm at what point are you breaking the law, for instance if you take a model upto the field but do not fly the model just to show the club but it is equipped to fly are you breaking the regulations, when the model becomes airbourne you need to register to be legal. Or is the case you have built a RTF uas so need to register. Just trying to figure out at what point you are breaking the rules. For instance at the club field if everyone is on the ground not flying and the CAA turn up are the rules being broken. I would think that in a court of law no-one has done anything wrong because they are not airbourne is just a collection of models. It might be a stupid question but it went through my mind. Peter

Hi Jeremy ok thanks, just seems stupid to have a cut-off date. One more question, if you just build models for the pleasure and do not fly them do you still need to register, I am sure there will be a few modellers who do not fly but love building. Peter

Hi Just a quick question it states The CAA will be launching an awareness-raising campaign to ensure that new and existing operators and remote pilots of small unmanned aircraft (SUAs) are aware of the requirement to register and take a competency test by 30 November 2019." what happens to new people who want to take up flying from december onwards, why is there a cut-off date. I would of thought registering would be open all the time. Have I got this wrong? Peter

Hi i ordered a profi 12 last week through a model shop, so I knew I had to wait for them to order (no stock) .i rang Perkins yesterday they had no stock of any profi so they got in touch with multiplex and they told them that profi 9,12 are discontinued the only one which is available is the special edition. To pricey for me at over £1000. So I started to ring around up and down the country all the shops that said they had them in stock but none had one in fact the amount of shops I rang it looks like they is none in the country. Today I started looking at the sx16 elegance which is available without any problems from the suppliers and shops, having a think now what to do. peter

Hi, I am looking at the royal sx16 now even though it a older set it seems to have the functions I want. The cockpit sx looks modern the switches are believe are not assignable. I do like flying with a neckstrap and pinching the sticks as oppose to thumbs. So the switches on the side are not what I need. The royal has 2 switches on the side but I can dis-regard them and put the switches on top. I checked out the Lindinger website no profi available but looks a good website. Peter

Hi Thanks I will check it out. Peter

Hi Just another quick question why have multiplex stop making the profi tx's except the special edition? I am after a profi 12 cant find them any were, model shops keep saying they are in stock when in reality they have no stock. Really frustrating I will have to carry on using my 20 yr old 4000 Peter

Hi Thank you for the info greatly appreciated multiplex instructions tend not to be clear in what you can do in that kind of setup. Peter

Hi Just a quick question if I want to double up on recievers and I am using a 9channel rx can I use a 7ch rx to increase diversity even though I using 9 channels for flight. Do I have to use two 9ch rx's for it to work? Peter

Hi For info, What I tend to do is not use the connector on ex leads cut the plug off (battery and ex lead)and solder directly to the lead on the battery to make one lead, or open the heatshrink and solder to the tags on the battery. Saves on connections. Peter

Hi Just for info I did some testing myself yesterday with the redundancy bus RB20 with xr8 pro and 6xr rx's. Also with twin 5cell nimah power supply. I swamped the x8r rx with the tx until it went to red led (rssi = 0), the system carried on working as normal. When the antenna was moved away the x8r reciever worked normally. I tried to swamp the X6R rx with the tx but I could not turn it to red led even with the antenna touching the rx aerial. I got the impression the X6R is quite robust with signal reception. **LINK** Peter R

Hi Ron that would be interesting, all i'm doing is making sure I get a good rx connection. When I flew last week I got telementry loss I did not check the rx (8 pro with X6r) for lockout, but will do this weekend and see the led status on both rx's on the ground. A quick question what should you set the telementry values and rssi values on frsky tx menu as a default for warnings? Peter R

I have just read through the forum regarding 8xr rx problems. just a few thoughts I am flying various petrol aircraft using dle engines. On my setups I always use two Rxs bound together and seperated inside the aircraft to give me more diversity with regard to antenna's and reception. I used last year two x8r and never missed a beat ? I had maybe once a day a telementry losed but carried on asuming that I had rx switched over and never worried about it. But from now on I will be purchasing the pro just to make sure but still run two rx maybe x8r pro and a 6xr together. Just a thought that with the size and cost of models it may be well worth having two rx's. My other setup is 8xr (old) with x6r running sbus into the redudancy bus uinit to give me 16ch and a ch for each surface on giant u-can do 3D and have no problems except the ocassional telementry loss.

Hi Pete Any info/pictures of the unit you are going to use. Peter

Hi I will put an alert on the club what's app when I am at the field.

Hi Peter, I have one of these spare if you are interested, I can bring it up to the field for you to have a look at and test this weekend if you are interested. Peter Supply Voltage: 3V - 8.7V Dropout voltage (Input vs output): 100mV @10.2A Continuous Operating current: ~ 20A Peak Output current: ~ 50A Standby Current (Off State): - ~ 5μA Operating temperature range: -40°C 80°C **LINK**