Keith Simmons Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Hi Adrian. That would be great to have Tailerons like the real thing. perhaps having a air bleed from the ducts to the flaps would be OTT, but I will have a go myself and operates when the flaps go down and linked with a small door to the duct wall. The model size would have to be a bit larger to make it work. It is a pipe dream at the moment as I better build a few models first to gain experience. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 A bit more progress. The fin is a built up structure from 1/16" balsa, weighs 8 grams and is strong enough for the job. The rear fuselage section looks like it is going to work and slots in nicely to the fin. The fan units should be a snug fit in the rear ducts so very little restraint will be needed for them. The final part of the rear duct will be tapering to 36mm diameter.Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Looking at the last pics the fans are mounted in a sub assembly at the rear of the fuse? Very good idea. (I will probably add a build thread for mine as it is still 'work in progress' and despite having flown several times is being revised as we speak...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Carr Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Posted by Ady Hayward on 07/01/2011 19:49:04:Craig, Wolfie,Both models are awesome. Please post some info about them.....Inspiration for us allAdrian Hi Ady, The pics of the TSR2 that I posted were being built by club mate Peter Johnson on behalf of Keith Mitchell for for the LMA circuit, as I understand it sadly the project has been put on hold Click here Yours is looking very good, are you able to produce a set of plans? Craig Edited By Craig Carr on 10/01/2011 09:15:54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Hi Craig, The 1/4 scale TSR2 is very impressive and is sure to be a favourite at the LMA shows. I have a set of working plans as shown on the first page. Everything fits on to an A0 sheet but it is still WIP as there are some adjustments to be made as I go along. Hopefully I will get it sorted in a couple of weeks. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 A litttle more progress. The 1/16" soft balsa inner ducts for the motor section are done. The duct tapers from 40mm to 36mm. The top section will be left open pending arrival of the fan units to allow routing of the esc wires. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 A little more woodwork done. Got the lower sheeting on the rear fuselage section. Soft 3/32" sheet wraps around nicely. Just make sure the grain is along the axis of the tight corner. The double tube structure is extremely strong so will allow lightening holes to be created in the formers to shave off a few grammes of weight. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Well, The rotten weather here this weekend has aided the build somewhat. The taileron control links are in and the lower fuselage is planked. This will stay much like this until installation of the speed controllers and fans. The weight of the fuselage, fin and rear ducts is 150 gram. Next in line will be the wing. Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 16:44:20 Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 16:48:26 Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 16:49:46 Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 16:50:51Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 16:59:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Todd Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Interesting project Ady, looks good so far, shall watch with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Walters Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I'm excited for you Ady - really looking forward to seeing this one finished and flying-keep it up mate - you are doing really well. TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Thanks Terry,Things may slow a little as I'm awaiting delivery of some new fan units which could take a couple of weeks to get here. The wing is already framed up and awaiting the lower sheeting. It will be a Clark Y section for simplicity so will be easy to build.AdrianI'm still having issues with postings as any text I do seems to not carry over. This is via text in wordpad and copy across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 As a general rule its best not to copy text into here Adrian, it often malfunctions. Far better to just type it in directly. Works well going the other wat though - i.e. copying from here into something else! Great progress - enjoying following this one! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 22:09:27Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 22:12:04Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 22:12:48Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 22:13:37Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 22:14:47Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 22:15:36Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 22:16:04 Edited By Ady Hayward on 16/01/2011 22:17:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 The previous pics show the wing frame from 3/16" balsa and the nderside covered with 3/32" balsa.I reloaded Internet Explorer and all seems ok regarding adding text again.Edited By Ady Hayward on 17/01/2011 03:16:54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Adams Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hi Andy, Comming along nicely,my grandad made parts for this and others including concorde over at Vickers/B.A.C in weybridge surrey,we ended up buying ex vietnam F4 Phantoms off the americans because "THEY WERE CHEAPER" The tite wads!!! Lovely Subject,Any chance of a plan for this and your others,for good old RCM+E? PS Should be a little pocket rocket i reckon!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hi Steve, There is always the possibility of this going to RCM&E for publication, but there's a way to go to ensure it flies ok. There has been interest in the Vampire, F4 and Dragonfly (Sportster) but as yet no progress. I can but hope. The noseblock will be from balsa taken from a TSR2 wing that was being cut up. There were a couple of large lumps in the root leading edges and I was given a piece of one of them. So hopefully part of one will fly in some way again. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Adams Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hi Andy, That is great to hear,I like you and many really dont understand why the govenment axed such an advanced aircraft.It would have more than paid for it self with orders from all over the world,a bit like the SR53.I would compare it with Frank Lampards goal in the world cup just gone,dis allowed but clearly a winner,so sad,but hey thats pollotics for you! Best Regards Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Still building and now it is starting to look like a TSR2. A bit of head scratching with the wingtips but they are strong and light. The whole wing as is weighs 86grams and will be held on to the fuselage by a couple of m4 nylon bolts into spike nuts in the fuselage. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Towell Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 LOOKING GOOD!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David perry 1 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Posted by Steve Adams on 17/01/2011 14:59:58: Hi Andy, That is great to hear,I like you and many really dont understand why the govenment axed such an advanced aircraft Because according to the engineers, it didnt work. Yes it looked cool and flew beautifuly, but remember that its raison d'etre was to be an integrated weapons delivery system: hence the fact that the tubby white bird is STUFFED with electronics. The various bits Ive read and tales I have heard are pretty clear - TSR2 didnt work and couldnt be made to work with what we had to hand. It sounds to me like a typical British project: bloody clever, but not quite deliverable. I suspect that we told the world it was the dogs danglies so that the Americans would think they'd pulled a blinder and flog us something that would do the job. It often pays to appear to be the poor cousin! I might be wrong, but thats my understanding. Tiz a great pity that the RAF is NOT in fact a flying club, else we'd be buying rides in TSR2 to this day! D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Walters Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Well Ady you are getting on well - where do you get the time? I'm retired and I can't find the time you have - what's the secret? Very impressed with the build - must get into proper building myself! Next instalment awaited. TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hi Terry, I have a very understanding wife and perfect building weather coupled with darik nights. The structure used is really quick, especially when cyanoacrylate is used. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Slight change of plan. I was hoping to have the forward fuselage detachable for ease oftransport, but after checking weight and balance I need to have the 2200 LiPo in the forward fuselage which would require a strong and heavy means of locking the forward section in place. An angled box in the forward fuselage has been made to house the battery so that launching will not have it come flying out. All up weight will be around 25oz which is a lot heavier than I was hoping for but we'll see. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Hayward Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 The tail surfaces are sorted and will be fixed last thing after painting. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Walters Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Wow! That looks really the biz Ady! Looks like you will have to have fast reactions cos your thumbs will be going for a workout! Bon courage! TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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