Martin Harris - Moderator Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I'm assuming zero zero ejection seats are fitted to Hawks? Would this suggest some form of pilot incapacitation? Terrible news whatever the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Quote"Both cockpit seats are fitted with Martin-Baker Mark 10B rocket boosted ejection seats"Apparantly these are indeed zero zero capable. Edited By Tim Mackey - Administrator on 20/08/2011 22:57:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom T Posted August 20, 2011 Author Share Posted August 20, 2011 They are all fitted with ejection seats. I think that he G-locked which would explain the loss of control and no ejection. But it could have been he was avoiding the houses and didn't have time to eject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Didnt look like he was pulling a lot of 'g' . I would assume and also like to think that he stayed with the aircraft in avoidance of the built up areas and tried to put it down in a safe area. God bless and sympathies to his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Very sad news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Channon Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Hi all, i saw the Red Arrows at Bournmouth yesterday, the news leaked through during the display, there was a " Technical problem" so a lot of aircraft did not fly, to think that we had only seen the arrows fly and then this, totally devistating, we went home. The comentary during the show was taking the mick out of Eggman, it felt like we knew him, i am honestly sad. No-one likes to see an aircraft go down, more so when they are the RED ARROWS, the best in the world. I have grown up with them, they used to come to farnborough every other week to practice, we all knew them. Upset. regards Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Let's not speculate too much on what happened please guys, the BOI will do that for us.It is a tragic loss and let's all keep our finger crossed the Reds will be back in our skies soon, in a time of immense spending cuts by the government this could be the excuse they need to save a few extra million! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Arnold Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Eric, The Red Arrows Hawk T1s have most of their maintenance carried out by the RAF technicians at Scampton, any remaining work is carried out at RAF Valley again by professional technicians both to a very high standard. As James says the BOI will let us know what happened following their investigation. In the mean time our thoughts go out to F/L Eggings wife and familyEdited By Keiran Arnold on 22/08/2011 08:48:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bowker Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Latest news is that the enquiry will be a few months, however the Reds are now due to fly back to RAF Scampton, weather permitting. Considering the speed the aircraft was travelling at and the fact that undercarriage was seen in the field (ripped off before impact marks) suggest that this was a controlled ditching with the gear down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 It's pretty clear that this was not a controlled ditching Allan!!!!!As always with an Air Crash, complete speculation is immediate as you can see from the point this thread was started until now. I have my theories and so do lot's of people which will differ, but at the end of the day, WE will never know the full truth until the report is produced.I'm with James, RIP Jon, condolences to his family and friends and let's just wait and see what the investigation say's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bowker Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I agree with your profile statement Ross ".....People have different views and opinions and always will have, that's life." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Absolutely Allan, that's why it is in my profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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