WolstonFlyer Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I would like to have a go but have limited funds and NO balsa building experience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 WF - take a look here. You're exactly the type of modeller this is aimed at - we need a cheap and cheerful first time build! OK the formal proposal thread is now open - here! BEB Edited By Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 20/09/2012 23:02:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolstonFlyer Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 That sounds great. I have no idea what to propose so not much help I am afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDF Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Just to put the cat among the pidgens I'd like to suggest a control-line mass build. And don't try to tell me this is an RC forum its ModelFlying.co.uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 I have just remembered one other suggestion. RCM&E free plans. Lots of scope here, but this is well covered in the forum anyway... but perhaps someone would like to suggest one or two of the plans - remember, simple and cheap.... Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Jones Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Since a specification exists would an experienced designer be prepared to sort out a model to suit? Ooh, I also meant to suggest a sheet wing, no ribs for beginners or is that too easy? Edited By Ian Jones on 20/09/2012 23:40:25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Ian I think a sheet wing might be a very good idea, especially if accompanied with a conventionally "built-up" fuselage - just enough complexity to be a "real build" but not so much as to overwhelm as it were. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Jones Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 A sheet wing would also make it a quick build for those strapped for time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingCrust Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 As I've probably mentioned earlier I'll have a go at anything which is decided upon. I thought the suggestion of building from a free plan, one that has a woodpack available, is a great idea I'm coming round to the Galaxy Gazelle as my choice. The middle one in the range would fit in nicely with where I am in flying at present. I'll need to get a motor for it, though. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I've put my suggestions in, the Jester is a great plane! I was thinking that Galaxy/Pegasus kits would be good because there is a nice range for all levels of builders to choose a plane to suit. (And I could submit my Domino) CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 My first thought is that a single model build will exclude a lot of folk on grounds of differing tastes, for that reason I'd suggest something more like the funfighter theme. The WW2 models would all feature similar construction so general build tips would apply across the board, while for those seeking something different there are lots of options for .20-.30 size WW1 warbirds - Sopwith Swallow, Tripe, 1 1/2 Strutter, Pup, Neiuport 24, Fokker D7 and 8 are all available as plans or kits. Again, structural and finishing techniques will be similar for most of these. I'd be well up for a Retro theme, I've been holding a Blue Angel kit back just in case, but I think that may have limited appeal. Or a general Warbirds bash as I'm covered by way of a couple of TF 60 size kits and a Galaxy Tiffie funfighter. Single designer - it would really have to be Pete Miller from plans or Boddo from kits or plans. Foss kits would price some people out of the market as they are not cheap and can't be bought a bit at a time as a plan build can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Jones Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Nigel Hawes Tucano Easy build with a flat sheet wing Easy to fly Huge range of real life liveries Can be modified by the more experinced builder - even to cross the channel (Dunkirk Spirit Pt.1) Inexpensive in it's basic form - spend as much as you like after that We could all end up with a record breaking model, perhaps there's a record we could all go for? Edited By Ian Jones on 21/09/2012 09:57:24 Edited By Ian Jones on 21/09/2012 09:58:49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 mmm That would also go well with .20 I would imagine. I wouldn't object to that. Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Difficult choice.....as Mr Bott points out the idea of a mass build is to a) have lots of people building the same model & b) to encourage the non-builders to have a go. This throws up another issue in that the model needs to have wide appeal so people WANT to build it. It also needs to be easy enough to tempt the non builders to have a go & challenging enough so the more experienced modeller will want to build one. If it could be powered by IC or Electric then this also would be a bonus & widen its appeal still further.... As it is an RCM&E "event" then I think would be a nice touch if it could be one of the RCM&E free plans....it kind of fits the whole ethos really... So...in summary then the model needs to be... a) Simple enough to tempt beginners b) Challenging enough (or have enough "modification possibilities" to tempt experienced builders c) IC or Electric d) RCM&E Free plan (IMHO) H'mmmmm.....should be easy enough to find something that meets those criteria..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dorrell Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 As one who has found the mass builds very enjoyable and inspiring, although I have not made it Greenacres to meet you all yet, This is my offer. Two seperate sections. The first, a beginners build section of the same model. I am going to suggest Alex Whittaker's "Bushwacker". Not only is it a RCM&E free plan but a kit is available, so it is in a similar spirit to the Webbit build. For us others who love to chat on the forum, anything goes as long as we share our experiences and it is scratch built. Cheers. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Jones Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Posted by Ian Jones on 21/09/2012 09:56:10: Nigel Hawes Tucano Easy build with a flat sheet wing Easy to fly Huge range of real life liveries Can be modified by the more experinced builder - even to cross the channel (Dunkirk Spirit Pt.1) Inexpensive in it's basic form - spend as much as you like after that We could all end up with a record breaking model, perhaps there's a record we could all go for? Edited By Ian Jones on 21/09/2012 09:57:24 Edited By Ian Jones on 21/09/2012 09:58:49 Posted by Martyn K on 21/09/2012 09:59:11: mmm That would also go well with .20 I would imagine. I wouldn't object to that. Martyn Well it seems to tick all the boxes. I've probably still got the May 2003 RCM&E with the plan in! I would be going I.C. too Martyn, probably a 25 but I'd have to look into the size needed. I'm finding this idea more and more appealing. Edited By Ian Jones on 21/09/2012 11:29:58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowerman Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 If RCM&E free plans were chosen then perhaps some of those designers could be persuaded to 'judge' an informal competition? How do messers Miller,Rake,Nijhuis,Hooper,Hawes etc feel about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Gibson Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Being a newbie with an ARTF trainer I have been thinking about a proper build to keep me occupied over the winter months so this mass build sounds very appealing to me. I like the idea of a funfighter, something to build and have ready for when I'm able to fly it in the future. I like the look of the Cambrian kits which would suit me as I don't feel ready to build from a plan yet......just my thoughts Dale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Just a note on organisation this year: Two forumites have joined the organising team to help me keep everything on track: MartynK - at the moment looking after the Proposal thread ConcordeSpeedBird - Keeping a tally of proposals! BEB (sipping a G&T with his feet up having put Martin and CSB to work - only joking lads!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Posted by Dale Gibson on 21/09/2012 17:29:32: Being a newbie with an ARTF trainer I have been thinking about a proper build to keep me occupied over the winter months so this mass build sounds very appealing to me. I like the idea of a funfighter, something to build and have ready for when I'm able to fly it in the future. I like the look of the Cambrian kits which would suit me as I don't feel ready to build from a plan yet......just my thoughts Dale. Dale, if you want to vote for Funfighters then please do so here. CS (Tally dept!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 No don't. The proposal thread is NOT a vote!!!!! It is just gathering all the possibilities we don't want multiple entries of the same thing! I've deleted a load of them! At this stage we just want a list of candidate models! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Gibson Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Don't worry BEB, I did noticed that Funfighters had already been proposed. Dale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Oh righttt! Okay then, no repeat votes in the formal thread! 13 so far, keep them coming! Thanks BEB, I'll keep the list updated. CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Good chap! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolstonFlyer Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 The Tucano looks interesting but I think something with a wood pack might be better for people that are new to building. But saying that I have got the plan for the TN 30inch dogfight double spitfire and planned to build it eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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