David Hardaker Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Hi John Interestingly the 112/117/119/120/1050 don't have "inset" ailerons. None of those Jodels have any such thing ! The aileron extends right to the tip. Also the inner (flat portion) is washed out from right from the root to dihedral break. Plus the washed out tip portions of course.. Well, mine is ! The VW powered D18 does have a non-washed out centre section. The washout is all in the ailerons and tip dihedral section. I just thought I'd mention it in passing ! David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 having a re think on prop size for the jodel d-120 , its got an asp 60 in it , any ideas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 11x7 or 11x8 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Well due to the overwhelming response from my question about prop size (I settled for a 12x6) , I thought I'd pose this question................. Balancing without any weight at indicated cg........... with weight .......... i think the nose heavy photo without weight will be ok ? What do you think . There's 20grams of lead at the tail to acheive the balance in the second photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hi John check the comments here by all accounts a nose heavy model is not much fun unless that is what's intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Stocker - Formerly, DB Sport and Scale Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Hi John, Just been alerted to this thread, very useful to many out there. I do think that it would have been nice to have been alerted to the fact that the ply floor part 120 was too small prior to your posting on 07/07/2013 12:52:50 in order to enable us to correct it both for you and for others. We only found this out by another customer alerting us to it (privately). We have now amended that, also the parts 215 & 216 that were too narrow. Eddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 hi eddie , I never gave it a thought to contact you , it wasnt a big deal really I just cut another from a bit of ply I had from the bottom of an old drawer May I say its an excellent model eddie , it flies beautiful , have to be careful on take off and landing from grass as it has a tendancy to nose over , but I increased the forward rake of the u/c and fitted bigger wheels , so this problem has been greatly reduced . Thanks again eddie for an excellent kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Stocker - Formerly, DB Sport and Scale Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Hi John, Thanks for the way you put it, but to us it is a very big deal because if we have overlooked or missed what some may think of as a small error, others will see that as a real problem. Also it means that we are cutting scrap parts without realising it. As many of you out there know, we do try our utmost to get things right, and regarding the customer having to make parts the correct size is not quite what we intended. We are both glad it flies ok (we knew that anyway) it can be a tad quick, and like any tail dragger, prone to nose overs, but generally a good flyer. Anyhow, Happy flying all, Eddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 John's post on the fitting of the ply part certainly didn't come over as a criticism to me - more a 'Have I done something wrong?' comment,TBH. I'd bet there are very few kits anywhere on the market which have no issues whatsoever and, as modellers, we tend to take such things in our stride. If the kit is particularly bad, then by all means raise it with the manufacturer, but for one piece of ply - surely not? If someone does a build blog on a forum, it's not unreasonable that they might mention the negative issues as well as the positive - that's what a forum is about and what we are all here for, so I'm not convinced it's reasonable for the manufacturer to publicly take the customer to task over fair comment..... None of us doubt the overall quality and excellence of the DB kits, that's for sure, and it's clearly something you've worked very hard to achieve. Perhaps you should head the instructions 'If you find a problem, please let us know and we'll deal with it'. or something along those lines, Eddie? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Stocker - Formerly, DB Sport and Scale Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Hello Pete, It's on page 9 of the instructions:- We are constantly looking at new or alternative ways to improve our products for our customers. Should you feel that there are areas we could improve, either with the product or the instructions, please feel free to air your views to us. Refinements are always welcome. Eddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Wind dropped a bit this afternoon , so thought I'd take the Jodel out for a change , its never been out for a while , flies great , bit of a floater when trying to get it down with a headwind , and it does tend to nose over , even with the u/c raked forward , the field where we fly doesnt help though either . I broke my prop whenit nosed over on the fourth landing , and I didnt have a spare , but I had four good flights . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Macleod Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 hi, just acquired a nearly completed model. Does anyone have a copy of the build instructions please? thanks Bill I have a copy of the smaller version plan from the scale model magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Stocker - Formerly, DB Sport and Scale Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Hi Bill, If it is a laser cut version of the D B Sport and Scale model, the instructions are downloadable from their Jodel web page, if it is an older version with foam wings, Richard at D b might be able to help, but if not I might have some answers to your questions. All the best, Eddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Macleod Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Hi Eddie, Its a built up wing so laser cut. Cannot see the instructions on the website. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Stocker - Formerly, DB Sport and Scale Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Hi Bill, Apologies, I'm sure I remember Richard telling me about a year or more ago that he had uploaded them all to tthe site. Maybe that one got missed (easy done). I'm sure he will email a copy over to you if you ask him, I have them here if you get stuck, but I don't want to step on Richard's toes "so to speak"!!! Eddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Macleod Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Thanks Eddie, I have sent them an email. Bil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Macleod Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Richard has just added the instruction off on the website. Many Thanks Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Stocker - Formerly, DB Sport and Scale Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Nice one Bill, I thought he would, I noticed that there are a few not linked for download, but no doubt they will come as needed, Eddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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