Mark Kettle 1 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I wonder how many or different types of models have been modelled on cancelled British aircraft projects, either by the PSSA group or other modellers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Brooks Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 At a rough estimate, with no data to support it, my guess would be that if it got past the "back of the envelope" design stage, and some sort of drawing exists, then somebody, somewhere, has built it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 there is a huge range of aircraft that can be built as long as there is a 3 view to work from. the problem will be getting them to fly. i have a list as long as my arm that i would like to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Brooks Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Posted by Tony Bennett on 05/08/2014 09:05:23: there is a huge range of aircraft that can be built as long as there is a 3 view to work from. the problem will be getting them to fly. i have a list as long as my arm that i would like to try. That's why I said "built it", not "flown it"! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 There's loads of choice, some of them straightforward and others potentially tricky. Here's one of the tricky ones, with a length (150' to span(50' ratio of 3 to 1. The Avro 730, intended to be a Mach 2.5/ Mach 3 dash capable reconnaissance and bomber aircraft to follow on from the Vulcan. A 1/3 scale proof of concept prototype was being built by Avro when it was cancelled in 1957 as a result of the infamous Duncan Sandys defence white paper. Although this is a canard, you will see the wing shape in the Bristol 188, which was originally designed as a test vehicle for stainless steel construction, in connection with this project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 As an aero modeller I would hope if I can build it - it flies! I have only one in this category the Hawker P1121. Full size never even completed but mine does fly. An EDF Miles M52 would be interesting, as would a LeDuc 0.22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Simon, definitely. The 1121 was a good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 What do you do about colour schemes and markings? At best you have an artists impression - otherwise its pure imagination I would guess. Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wright Stuff Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Wow. Interesting thread. I'm hoping this runs and runs! Colour schemes and markings present a chance for some creative input, which I guess is a large part of the attraction of modelling unbuilt designs. A guide is the schemes in which contemporary aircraft that were built featured in the same period of time. I guess this could even be extended to modelling unbuilt marks of historical aircraft (some interesting Spitfire variants, anyone?) or even unapplied colour schemes to real aircraft. What if... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Here's another one, this from WW2 that I've posted before. The "Type C" in the colour artist's representation was the final design proposal in the series of "Victory Bomber" designs by Vickers. The drawings are of some of the others on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Pearce 4 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 An interesting thread! The Miles M.39 Libellula featured in the model photo thread takes some beating. Dylan’s Westland Whirlwind announcement started me looking at it on the web and it’s amazing the amount various groups have written on possible Whirlwind developments. From Merlin engines to pusher props and even a twin boom torpedo carrying version! Personally I’d prefer to keep it a little more real and, like a lot of Whirlwind fans, would like to have seen what Westland may have had in mind for a Mk III or IV, if only to make one finished in D-Day stripes or even Photo Recce blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Wow your coming out with all the goods Colin, I can see another build coming on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Mark, Tony's certainly fired up! David, what the Whirlwind really needed was the Merlin, but I understand that the airframe was considered to be too small for it to be practical. The death knell was abandonment of the Peregrine by Rolls Royce. It was only 21 litres compared to the Merlin's 27 and was actually a "Merlinised" version of the older Kestrel. It had a few problems and I think that RR decided that there wasn't enough demand for it to justify further development, particularly with the huge commitment to improving the Merlin and bringing on the Griffon. If you want to look at something similar to the Whirlind but which probably had more scope, have a look on-line at the various twin Spitfire proposals by Supermarine, including one with the engines set up as pushers which looked just like a jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hawker Siddeley HS.1101 supersonic maritime patrol/ anti-submarine aircraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 short pd13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Surely the HS 1101 is off 'Thurderbirds' . What a fantastic looking aeroplane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Surely the HS 1101 is off 'Thurderbirds' . What a fantastic looking aeroplane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It certainly is. Also the Short project is one that I think has the "Isoclinic" wing developed on the Sherpa (SB34)? in which the whole wing-tip rotates to provide lateral and longitudinal control. Another interesting challenge for a model, although I know that the Sherpa has been modelled before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 PSS for Gerry Anderson designs then - Remember Fireflash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Go on Martyn, I dare you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 my fireflash never flew. ended up in a gerry anderson fans home as a static display model. though in depron. hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. oh shut up you lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I would be arrested for launching a lethal weapon.. It would need a big rubber ball on the pointy bit. This one would be very difficult: No more - now well off topic - sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Good grief! I would have loved to see that fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Going back as far as Supercar is a real admission of age, I'm so glad that nobody has mentioned Four Feather Falls! By the time that Thunderbirds came along I'd already grown up, (although my wife has problems with that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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